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You might want to bite your tongue until it bleeds and then get used to using some qualifiers in your sentences like "some," "a few," "often," "many," "a lot of," "in general," "the misguided/corrupy leadership of," etc. I'm ELCA, and I defy you to find a more conservative, God-fearing group of people than my congregation. I just came from visiting a United Methodist friend in New York, and I guarantee you her church doesn't buy this crap either. Making full blown generalizations like this is ignorant and arrogant, and lumping whole groups of people into a category of "not real" Christians or Jews is disgusting.

On topic: This article disgusts me, and it's sad to see how certain people who should know better have bought into this travesty.

Don’t be so thin skinned. I was being more harsh on the Reform Jews than anything. My point was, that all of those organizations are liberal, certainly at the national leadership level and obviously it varies at the local level. However, all of them, at the national leadership level are perverting the word of G-d. Liberalism in the church-synagogue needs to be dealt with.

I know other congregations of ELCA that don’t go for “it” either. I just wonder why they remain in the ELCA. I would think they would find more solidarity with the Missouri or Wisconsin synod. OR, vote out the liberals at the national level and take their synod back.

So I am well aware that there are good people in liberal churchs and synagogues. But I know that you would never find an Orthodox Rabbi blowing a shofar at a PP, nor would you find someone from the Wisconsin Synod there, etc...

The groups I listed support PP. At the National level. If you are offended by that, take it up with the ELCA. Not me.