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Murder conviction tossed; man freed after 9 years in jail
CNN ^ | January 22, 2008 | Eliott C. McLaughlin

Posted on 01/23/2008 9:07:47 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude

A Colorado judge Tuesday threw out Tim Masters' 1999 murder conviction after DNA evidence pointed to another suspect, and Masters was freed after spending more than nine years behind bars.

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So much for 'police integrity'

This kid spent 9 years in because of some badged idiot's 'feeling', while a real murder was stalking the streets.

1 posted on 01/23/2008 9:07:49 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

The kid was 15 at the time of the murder. The body was dumped in a field in back of his house. The other suspect was the girl’s ex boyfriend.


2 posted on 01/23/2008 9:13:50 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
Accused at 15, jailed in 1999, released at 37. That would make him 28 when he went to jail???

Where was he from 15 to 28? What kind of hell was he put through in those years and how is it possible no DNA was done all those years???

Just another case of ‘we got a conviction. ARen’t we great” - and the devil about trying to find the real perp, which might take a little real work.

I’m not a ‘sue’ person, but I hope he gets enough to never have to work the rest of his life. He’s earned ‘early retirement’

3 posted on 01/23/2008 9:34:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

The prisons of the US have (IMHO) many hundreds of innocent men rotting away. This is especially the case for rape convictions.

Thank G-d for DNA testing.


4 posted on 01/23/2008 9:34:13 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Last time I checked there were 300 DNA matches (for me) in my tiny state of Maryland. This $hit does not work.


5 posted on 01/23/2008 10:01:14 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

There seem to be a lot of cases like this showing up. Legacy of the Nifongs.


6 posted on 01/23/2008 10:10:35 PM PST by TChad
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
Prosecutors, Sheriffs, Police Chiefs run for election / or are appointed by someone who does based on their conviction rates & the perception they are cleaning up crime. They plea bargain with thugs, known liars, or fix evidence in order to get convictions a la Nifong & Fitzpatrick - and there are thousands more examples including plain laziness or indifference.Go figure.
7 posted on 01/23/2008 10:47:12 PM PST by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

after spending more than nine years behind bars

I know the system is not perfect but come up with a better one!


8 posted on 01/23/2008 11:18:45 PM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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It would be easy. Require actual evidence that the accused committed the crime. The rest of the process would remain the same.

As it is, the state’s burden of evidence keeps getting revised downward.


9 posted on 01/24/2008 4:17:36 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: maine-iac7

Between 15 and 28 he was leading a normal life. He spent some time in the military. He was working a job. Then someone decided they wanted to close this case and lied to the jury. There was absolutely NO EVIDENCE that he did anything.

This kind of thing will continue as long as the people who do this (PROSECUTORS) don’t face punishment of their own. The whole “immunity” thing is wrong in cases like this.


10 posted on 01/24/2008 5:28:09 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: kinoxi
Last time I checked there were 300 DNA matches (for me) in my tiny state of Maryland.

What the hell are you talking about?

11 posted on 01/24/2008 5:31:04 AM PST by Sloth (I feel real bad for deaf people, cause they have no way of knowing when microwave popcorn is done.)
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To: kinoxi

I’d love to know what database you accessed that would tell you how many ‘matchs’ there are in a given state. AFAIK no such database exists, and unless you were heavily cloned, the chances of someone else exactly matching you DNA-wise is in the billions-to-one range.


12 posted on 01/24/2008 6:44:40 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: Sloth
I've read numerous articles on the duplicate statistics. The entire sequence is never done. Here is an article from google for right now. I'll post more if you'd like. The statistical probability of an incorrect match are nowhere near reliable in a large population under standard guidelines.http://www.bioforensics.com/articles/Legally%20Scientific%20(Cold%20Hits%20vs%20Hard%20Facts).html
13 posted on 01/25/2008 12:08:39 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Matching the entire sequence is in the billions. Matching current guidelines is in the millions.


14 posted on 01/25/2008 12:10:01 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
Last time I checked there were 300 DNA matches (for me) in my tiny state of Maryland. This $hit does not work.

So how was it being on the O.J. Simpson jury?

15 posted on 01/25/2008 12:12:30 PM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: trumandogz
Those are the odds, millions to one. The portion of DNA that is tested and compared is extremely small to the portion that is testable. I’d like to be proven wrong, but it aint gonna happen this time.
16 posted on 01/25/2008 12:17:01 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
It would be easy. Require actual evidence that the accused committed the crime. The rest of the process would remain the same.

Amazing, isn't it? This guy was slated to spend the rest of his life behind bars for a conviction of which there was no physical evidence linking him to the crime.

As someone posted earlier, there are probably many men serving sentences for rape, convicted on nothing more than "he said, she said."

If we are going to send people to prison for the rest of their adult lives, the least we can ask for is hard, physical evidence tying them to the crime. Doing otherwise solves nothing. Sure, a family may have gotten "closure" but in the end an innocent man was imprisoned while a psychopath still walks free.

17 posted on 01/25/2008 12:20:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: kinoxi

I see from the article you linked to that DNA matching suffers from the same problem fingerprinting does. In the ‘authorities’ rush to get a conviction, they are using too low of a matching standard to guarantee they have the right person. All the while telling the jury that they have irrefutable DNA proof.

My respect for our ‘legal’ system drops another notch.


18 posted on 01/25/2008 1:00:25 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
My respect for our ‘legal’ system drops another notch.

It happens. The science will evolve and it will get better. It's a great tool as it is but even if properly done, no where near infallible.
19 posted on 01/25/2008 1:09:19 PM PST by kinoxi
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