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Whole Foods Ditches Plastic; Will [Madistan] Follow?
Madistan.com ^ | January 23, 2008 | Lynn Welch

Posted on 01/23/2008 5:34:32 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: steve86
the production level, the transport level, and the waste level.

Jobs for everyone along the way, and profits for the businesses publishing them.

Win-win-win-win!

21 posted on 01/23/2008 6:27:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: mountn man
Unfortunately no matter how I do the math, I cannot produce eggs for less than store bought. We use Rhode Island Reds. We use them two seasons for laying, then allow a few to sit, then kill and dress/freeze those hens for eating after they raise their chicks. We've found that Reds are the best mothers. We let them free range during seasons with enough food availability supplemented with laying ration.

Winter heat lamps, water considerations(heat tapes and submersed heater), lighting, louse control, building maint, and replacement costs(raising chicks to adult layers), and laying ration all cost too much. But the eggs taste the best and we prefer them over store bought.

22 posted on 01/23/2008 6:33:43 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Jeff Chandler

It’s called malallocation. Not a desirable economic mechanism.

We could also put people to work stacking and then unstacking tombstones and print money to pay for the labor.

Not what you want to do.


23 posted on 01/23/2008 6:33:44 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I stopped at Whole Foods this evening on my way home from work and saw the signs about eliminating platic bags. What a major inconvenience. Plus paper bags use more storage space at home and in landfills. I don’t shop at Whole Foods to save the environment, I shop there for the convenience of getting a level of food quality I can’t get anywhere else in one place. Next they want to replace the plastic bags in the perishable and bulk departments. Looks like I’m going to have to start shopping at Wegmans.


24 posted on 01/23/2008 6:34:56 PM PST by xeno
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To: Parmy

Paper? How about putting some canvas bags in the back of your car, like some of us have done for the last 20 years. I dodn’t mind the plastic or paper folks if they pay for the bags.


25 posted on 01/23/2008 6:35:37 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: steve86

>>It’s called malallocation.<<

Actually, it’s called ADVERTISING, and it is highly effective in selling goods and services.


26 posted on 01/23/2008 6:40:30 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: mountn man

Laying Hens versus Meat Hens, SILLY! :)


27 posted on 01/24/2008 6:19:54 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I go to the store and first buy a case of beer. Atop the case I stack the necessary food groups - cigars, bourbon, chocolate fudge, burgers, potato chips and ammo. Then I carry it out to the SUV. I don’t need plastic or paper bags.


28 posted on 01/24/2008 6:24:53 AM PST by sergeantdave (The majority of Michigan voters are that stupid and the condition is incipient and growing.)
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To: Chode; All

Exactly. And how many trucks does it take to deliver food all over our nation? If these hippies in Madistan are TRULY into Saving the Earth, they’d adopt the “100 Mile Rule” and not eat anything that is trucked in from further away than that. And they’d support LOCAL farmers and marketers exclusively, of which we have hundreds. And they could learn to bake their own bread. Or chop a head of lettuce versus a packaged bag of already chopped.

Fer Pete’s Sake! Look at the PACKAGING that foodstuffs already come in. Look in the average cart and see how much packaging waste there is, then tell me that banning a few plastic carrying bags makes one bit of difference in the long run.

My problem lies with a Federal Ban on ANYTHING. Let the Free Market (consumers) decide and let business owners decide. The hippies and the local Geen Dictocrats need to shut up and quit being a bunch of hypocrites, telling the REST of us how to live, when your average schmuck like me lives more lightly than they could ever DREAM of living.


29 posted on 01/24/2008 6:29:34 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: sergeantdave

You da MAN, Sergeant Dave! :)


30 posted on 01/24/2008 6:31:21 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“I keep laying hens.”

Sounds painful.

I have shopped at the Whole Foods here, in Birmingham, many times although I prefer our local grocer for most things. Whole Foods (Whole Paycheck) is a nice store, but you can’t do all of your shopping there. However, when asked I always insist on a paper bag. Plastic bags suck. If the eco-weenies don’t want paper (it is recycled by the way) let them buy some of the reusable cloth bags there at the store.

We should conserve things where we can in the Teddy Roosevelt fashion and we should be good stewards where we can. The eco-weenies have never gotten it because liberals don’t believe in personal responsibility.


31 posted on 01/24/2008 6:34:18 AM PST by skirmisher2006 (http://rememberingliberty.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

ditto! hooray for you. i grew up on a farm too.

i lived in austin for a year and observed their worshippers

shopping at whole foods.

they’re all posh, upscale leftists and their wannabees.

the wannabees don’t have the money that the others have

and they’re left holding the bag, so to speak.


32 posted on 01/24/2008 6:34:39 AM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: sergeantdave

Party at Dave’s!


33 posted on 01/24/2008 6:35:55 AM PST by skirmisher2006 (http://rememberingliberty.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It’s ALL marketing, FRiends. Don’t be a sap.

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Cynic. :)

I agree.

34 posted on 01/24/2008 6:36:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Twinkie

Meijer is getting smart. They’re now selling reusable shopping bags at $.99 each. Not only are they attractive — a nice, bright blue with a green leaf — they’re well designed. They hold your 2-litres upright, are very sturdy and have a pocket in the front. I bought three my last visit and will probably buy a few more. The plastic bags, imho, are a nuisance. They’re good for holding a gallon of milk (in case it leaks) but they multiply like rabbits in the trash.


35 posted on 01/24/2008 6:36:30 AM PST by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: Kieri

I do use the plastic bags to line small trash cans around the house, and I pile them up, too, and take them to the recycling box at either Walmart or Kroger or wherever one is available from time to time. They ARE a nuisance for carrying groceries, though. - I like the paper bags with handles that Wild Oats will put groceries in if you ask (or at least did). - I saw some of those reusable 99 cent bags at Kroger, but I didn’t buy any because I shop at other grocery stores besides Kroger and those had the Kroger name and logo on them. - I read somewhere that they also accept the plastic newspaper sleeves and plastic dry cleaning bags in the Kroger recycling boxes, but don’t know for sure.

I try to recycle to some degree. We have an organic garden and have composted for 22 years. We save up newspapers for auctioneer friends who use them at their auction house for people to wrap their purchases and we shred paper in the office and use it for mulch. (It piles up so bad I’m thinking about asking the local animal shelter if they want it for bedding.) I can’t get my husband to fool with recycling aluminum cans and glass, so I guess it’s good we don’t have too much of that kind of stuff in our garbage.


36 posted on 01/24/2008 7:59:32 AM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Image hosted by Photobucket.com well said as per usual...
37 posted on 01/24/2008 4:46:03 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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