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To: CharlesWayneCT; Checkers
Your post history shows just how adamantly you opposed the only conservative candidate among the top tier. Please don’t play the "Fred is gone. Let’s kiss and make up” game now. It’s just too disingenuous.

Fred is out of the race due in part to people like you who refused to support the one who would have supported conservatism for us. Your choice may win the nomination, but he is still a man with a CINO political career.

But you can relax. Many here will go to Mitt because, once again, real conservatives have been pushed aside and they will have to choose among what's left or sit it out. However, you two and many others from the FR Kill Thompson for Romney campaign are probably pushing it with a of people today.

59 posted on 01/22/2008 3:48:10 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: Route66

“once again, real conservatives have been pushed aside and they will have to choose among what’s left or sit it out.”

It’s been that way since 1988, there is NOTHING new about it...

The leftist (and largely-Gay) media has succeeded in painting the “Conservative Agenda” as EVIL, STUPID, Homophobic, and hypocritical..

In many people’s eyes, the word “Conservative” is associated with Confederate-flagged pickups driven by drunken NASCAR fans, running blacks down on the roadsides.

It’s been a decades-long propoganda war, and WE LOST.

Despite this the fact remains that neither the Liberal left, or WE, can win an election without the great unwashed “middle”.


73 posted on 01/22/2008 3:57:00 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: Route66; CharlesWayneCT

“Your post history shows just how adamantly you opposed the only conservative candidate among the top tier. Please don’t play the “Fred is gone. Let’s kiss and make up” game now. It’s just too disingenuous.
Fred is out of the race due in part to people like you who refused to support the one who would have supported conservatism for us. Your choice may win the nomination, but he is still a man with a CINO political career.

But you can relax. Many here will go to Mitt because, once again, real conservatives have been pushed aside and they will have to choose among what’s left or sit it out. However, you two and many others from the FR Kill Thompson for Romney campaign are probably pushing it with a of people today.”

You sound kind of bitter.


87 posted on 01/22/2008 4:09:03 PM PST by Checkers (John McCain is Bob Dole minus the character, humor, class, record, loyalty, mental fitness...)
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To: Route66

I can’t speack for Checkers, he can speak for himself.

My posting history shows I have been a strong opponent to claims about Mitt Romney that I believed were inaccurate, unfair, or misleading.

At times I have made comparisons with Fred Thompson in response to arguments about strict and long-term adherence to conservative principles. in those comparisons, I always noted that I did not fault Thompson for his former positions. I have also made it clear that Thompson was always a choice for me, and was only relegated to 2nd choice because I didn’t believe he was going to survive.

I also from time to time pointed out what I believed to be the problems that were causing Fred not to catch on with the voters. I did so not to attack him, but to explain his position with voters.

I always felt that his dismissal of church membership was a problem for evangelicals, as was his dismissal of Dobson, and his lack of support for HLA and the Marriage amendment.

I always had a 2-candidate strategy (Hunter was never close to being viable enough to think about as part of a strategy). I worked to get Fred Thompson in the race because I saw flaws in Romney’s ability to get the nomination, and because Fred was obviously acceptable to the conservative community.

I donated to Fred (I only recently donated to Romney). When it came time, I collected signatures to get Fred Thompson on the ballot in Virginia. I did not make an endorsement on my own blog. I declared my 1st choice here because some people suggested it was deceptive not to, but I did NOT urge Fred Thompson supporters to switch candidates.

I only do so now because Fred is gone. If you check, I never said that Fred should quit the race either.

I long ago decided that Mitt Romney was a good conservative choice for President. I also thought Fred Thompson would be a good conservative choice for President. I supported both. I defended Romney because Fred didn’t need to be defended here, while Romney did.

I always figured that if Thompson caught on, it would be at the expense of Romney. But Thompson did not catch on, and Romney has the organization, money, experience, and the strategy to win the nomination, and to win the election.

Nothing I did prevented a single person from voting for Fred, except if my defense of Romney made some people decide NOT to switch to Fred. Even when talking to people, if they said they didn’t like Romney, I always told them they should vote for Fred. I even steered Huckabee people in my church to Fred (a hard sell, unfortunately, due to the aforementioned items).

So sorry, Fred is out because of how Fred decided to run his campaign. I pretty much always feel it is the candidate’s job to convince people to vote for him. If I took personal responsibility for every candidate who failed to do his job with the voters, I’d be a depressed person indeed.


122 posted on 01/22/2008 4:37:52 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Route66
Please don’t play the "Fred is gone. Let’s kiss and make up” game now. It’s just too disingenuous.

I agree! The ones who were the most energetic in bashing Fred now come sweeping in like vultures looking to pick his bone. They wanted the conservatives out of the race. They got their wish and now they're on their own. Let them elect their CRINOs without us.

457 posted on 01/22/2008 10:31:31 PM PST by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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