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Huckabee presents the best choice for Reagan supporters
Gwinnett Daily Post ^ | 1-22-2008 | U.S. Rep. John Linder, R-GA

Posted on 01/22/2008 2:02:22 PM PST by unspun

I was first elected to the Georgia House of Representatives 34 years ago. I have watched this party change for a long time. Some changes have been better than others.

Two years after that first election, I went to work on the Reagan campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. I was one of the leaders of that campaign in Georgia, and my friend, Paul Coverdell, led the establishment's efforts to nominate President Ford.

It was the typical establishment-versus-interloper campaign. Most of the friends I had made in the party were in the establishment. Most of them thought the nomination of Ronald Reagan was not only impractical, but would destroy our party.

Reagan had just served two terms as the governor of California. His record was not all that conservative. He signed the biggest tax increase in the history of the state. He got the best he could get with a Democrat-dominated general assembly. He signed a bill legalizing abortion. But governors have different challenges than presidents.

Frankly, most of the establishment couldn't have cared less about abortion. They thought the discussion of it was, well, tacky. But we were, at the time, the party that Barry built, and the new foot soldiers cared about abortion.

Their concern with Reagan was that he just wasn't up to it. What did he know about foreign policy? How could he stand up to the Soviets? Did he understand detente?

During that campaign, as in all campaigns, the establishment sat at the head table, and the rest of us milled around the small round tables below.

Coverdell approached me, after Ford had won the first several primaries, and urged me to switch sides. Paul was convinced that Ford had the best chance of winning. Paul recited all of the reservations mentioned above and then said, "John, Reagan cannot win. No one will take him seriously." That was also the consensus of the Republican writers and commentators.

I said, "Paul, I think politics is all about what you believe. I know what Reagan believes. I have no idea what Ford believes. But you need to watch Reagan connect with the people. He is the best communicator I have ever seen. He is bringing new people into the party. And these are folks you won't be meeting at the club for lunch. They carry a lunch bucket to work. Or a brown paper bag."

Four years later, I worked again for Reagan and Paul worked for George H. W. Bush. Again, the Wall Street crowd sat at the head table, and the Main Street crowd sat at the small round tables on the floor.

The same arguments came from the establishment. His tax cut idea was a "riverboat gamble." In fact, his tax cuts doubled the size of the economy and doubled revenues to the treasury. Unfortunately, they spent that and more.

Reagan didn't understand that the world is a dangerous place and dealing with the Soviets required a more "understanding" policy. It also required a willingness to sign more treaties. They didn't know that Reagan had no interest in understanding the Soviets. He wanted communism consigned to "the ash heap of history."

It was a neverending series of put-downs until New Hampshire. Then it was over.

Reagan won that election with the support of Larry Lunch-bucket and Betty Brownbag. They were called the Reagan Democrats. When we celebrated that victory, I asked some of them why they chose to join us. They said, "When he talked, we felt that he was talking to us." The Reagan Democrats believe they have been ignored since 1988.

The establishment doesn't like change. They have always felt that their seats at the head table were threatened by those new to the club. The establishment that so ardently opposed Reagan's nomination in 1980 crawled all over each other to chair his 1984 race.

Today they now see themselves as those who put Reagan in power. His presidency was their presidency. They believe they are the keepers of the flame.

Today's establishment includes elected officials, consultants, lobbyists and even conservative writers and commentators. Unless you allow them to write the rules and approve of your positions you are unwelcome. Anyone who does not genuflect before their altar is "not conservative."

When you look at the many fine candidates seeking the Republican nomination for president, who do you believe can best speak to those Reagan Democrats?

I believe that candidate is Mike Huckabee.

When Reagan became president, one of his first moves was to reduce income taxes from 70 percent to 50 percent and ultimately down to 28 percent. As pointed out above, both the size of the economy and the federal revenues doubled in eight years.

Huckabee doesn't want to lower income taxes. He wants to abolish them - along with the IRS, the most intrusive, coercive and corrosive federal agency ever. Mike would replace those taxes on income with a sales tax - the FairTax. Every American will become a voluntary taxpayer paying taxes when you choose, as much as you choose, by how you choose to spend. How conservative can one get?

Rep. John Linder, R-Duluth, has served in the House of Representatives since 1992.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: barfalert; huckabee; linder
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To: ejonesie22
Oh my...

That is all ya got isn't it? Someone told you this was a horrible thing and you nod, but can't articulate why can you?

301 posted on 01/22/2008 9:11:15 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey

“Charging tuition is not a service.”

Charging in-state tuition is a service. If your tuition is being subsidized by the taxpayers it is just as much a service as taxpayer subsidized health care.


302 posted on 01/22/2008 9:11:38 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: LordBridey

Actually I get speechless when I see that kind of stupidity...

I think a person saying that they are a “Conservative” advocating spending ANY money on illegal immigrants, other than the money need for enforcement is...

Well, I put “conservative” in parenthesis for a reason...

Why stop there, lets educate the planet...

Damn, just damn....


303 posted on 01/22/2008 9:20:28 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Sudetenland
Now the voting citizens of our nation are "sheeple."How very elitist of you.

Yeah, me and Rush.

304 posted on 01/22/2008 9:24:52 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: keepitreal
If your tuition is being subsidized by the taxpayers it is just as much a service as taxpayer subsidized health care.

Thank you. So he should have asked for out of state tuition fees? Or is all tuition subsidized?

305 posted on 01/22/2008 9:29:33 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey

When did going to college become a right?


306 posted on 01/22/2008 9:30:39 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: ejonesie22; keepitreal
I think a person saying that they are a “Conservative” advocating spending ANY money on illegal immigrants, other than the money need for enforcement is...

I didn't see it as spending money on illegals. I saw it as allowing them to spend their own money to go to college. Now I see where y'all are coming from. I wasn't thinking that tuition was subsidized. Oh do I feel stupid. So, they should just have to pay the unsubsidized tuition? Correct? That is the conservative position?

307 posted on 01/22/2008 9:35:40 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey

If they want to go to college, sure they should pay out-of-state tuition. But, they should also leave the country and apply for a student visa, just like other non-legal-resident students must do.


308 posted on 01/22/2008 9:44:18 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: LordBridey
Charging in state tuition to illegal aliens is a service. It is a discount that American citizens cannot get...duh.

As for the rest, yes he should have arrested the offending employers, arrested the parents, and sent them packing back to their own country.

Higher education is not a right. It is not even a right of American citizens, not an entitlement, not provided for in the Constitution, and certainly not the right of law-breaking criminals.
309 posted on 01/22/2008 9:53:31 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: LordBridey

Sorry Rush doesn’t support Huckabee. In fact Huckabee and McCaine are the only two Republicans he has directly opposed.


310 posted on 01/22/2008 9:56:19 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: TexasMatty
And Mormons also eat children and burn goat placentas on altars made of human bones. What utter crap!

Everything I wrote was true, so deal with it. If you don't believe me, read the Documentary History of the Church, the Mormons' official church history. Read the teachings of the founders, their website, their hymns, and so on. It's all there. Aliens: Brigham Young taught that aliens lived on the sun, while Joseph Smith taught that they lived on the moon (and dressed like Quakers). Indians: I'm amazed that you've never run into them struggling to try and defend their "Bible"'s claims that the indians are really descended from Israelites (called "Lamanites"). Jesus and Satan as brothers: Read it for yourself from their "church" website. God has a wife: Google "heavenly mother". Here's a mention of her in a Mormon Hymn for you (plenty more where that came from). Anyone can become a God: Again read it yourself from their website (section: "Our Heavenly Father Presented a Plan for Us to Become like Him".

Oh, and Joseph Smith killed two men in a shootout (History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7:108). Again, it's all in their own books.

Mormonism is a cult with beliefs as crazy as those of any cult you've seen in the news in the past decade.
311 posted on 01/22/2008 10:37:38 PM PST by OldGuard1
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To: Sudetenland; keepitreal
Just to be clear. The conservative position, concerning in state tuition, as Huckabee proposed it, and the cause for great indignation is that illegals would be receiving the benefits, a reduction in the actual cost, that the American taxpayer purchases, and that is essentially another form of welfare to people who shouldn't even be here, and because they are not contributing to the system. Have I got it?

And is that the actual difference between out of state and in state tuitons? Because the out of stater didn't contribute in the state he is attending school, he pays the actual cost of his education?

312 posted on 01/22/2008 10:53:23 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: unspun

“Huckabee presents the best choice for Reagan supporters”

BullHuck


313 posted on 01/22/2008 10:56:32 PM PST by Grunthor (No Juan. No Huckaliar. Not primary, not general, not ever.)
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To: LordBridey

In as much as I have an issue with them even being in our public high schools and such, since many pay some taxes, I see it as being just like eveyone else, the government does k-12.

Not even citzens are guaranteed College.


314 posted on 01/23/2008 3:30:28 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: unspun

Fix your liberal state first. You might then see how liberal Mike is.


315 posted on 01/23/2008 4:13:00 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain Sucks!)
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To: HHFi
The sad and frustrating part for me is that I've worked in the media for 30 years, I have a close relative who worked very high up in the RNC in DC and goes all the way back to being a Reagan delegate in '76, and I know a lot of these people personally. Party insiders have been telling me for months that Huckabee was really the most conservative candidate who actually had a chance of winning because of his communications skills and appeal to working class voters (who used to be called Reagan Democrats), but he was going to be destroyed by the big money GOP establishment for the same reason they tried to destroy Reagan to give us Ford: because they would rather remain in control of a shrunken, out-of-power party than allow anyone to rise to power in it who wasn't part of their Harvard-Yale-Wall Street cabal. And all you people fell in line, piled on Huckabee and helped them. Congratulations for slitting your own throats.

It would seem so.

316 posted on 01/23/2008 4:20:04 AM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: unspun

NO way in Hell will huckabee get a vote from me.


317 posted on 01/23/2008 4:23:43 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: unspun; All
So no reply about what specific about Madison you find applicable to Huckabee?

No surprise. On a different thread unspun quoted Carl Marx and said it was Lincoln or Jefferson.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947514/posts?q=1&;page=1

I guess he thinks it is WE who are stinking up the joint by our stupidity in not unabashedly supporting Huckabee, while he decries the declining standards of conservatism here on Free Republic. Meanwhile he uses the names of great American thinkers and patriots as buzz words while ascribing the words of Marx to them.

This is about par for the course as far as Huckabee supporters; I have found.

Madison’s words that I find applicable to Huckabee.....

An alliance or coalition between Government and religion cannot be too carefully guarded against......Every new and successful example therefore of a PERFECT SEPARATION between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance........religion and government will exist in greater purity, without (rather) than with the aid of government. [James Madison in a letter to Livingston, 1822, from Leonard W. Levy- The Establishment Clause, Religion and the First Amendment,pg 124]

Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects. [James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr., Jauary 1774]

318 posted on 01/23/2008 6:16:48 AM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (Hunter 08))
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To: OldGuard1
So just being a Christian is your deciding factor?

Excuse me, my good man, but if I'm not mistaken, Benito Mussolini was a practicing Catholic almost until the day he was suspended from his heels at that Fina station in Milan. As were Jim Bakker and his thieving corruption and Jimmy Swaggart caught twice in cheap motel rooms with working girls.

I suggest you view a marvelous old Oscar-winner named "Elmer Gantry". Huckleberry Hound has a lot in common with the title character. Too bad he also lacks Burt Lancaster's talent and charisma.


319 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:54 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: HHFi

One more little comment. If your late father founded the Republican Party in your Texas county, you must be over a century old, since the Republican Party of Texas dates back to Reconstruction. Maybe a small exaggeration on your part?


320 posted on 01/23/2008 7:23:22 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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