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To: Wonder Warthog
Sorry, but I don't believe that. Why do we suddenly need "REAL ID", when we didn't during WWII, or the "Cold War". The need to identify "bad guys" was as acute then as it is today, yet no such ideas were promulgated.

You are right.

Any state now has the full capability of identification without federal integration.

Illegal immigrants can already be identified through internal state operations and denied any benefits, voting, employment etc. UNLESS the federal government finds it in itself to apply it's leverage in denying state options.

If a state, like Oklahoma, invokes proper legislation than that state can be illegal free. The illegals will go elsewhere, including back home, just like they got here, once shown to be unwelcome in that state. Whereby any US citizen can settle in a state where responsible taxpayers are respected. You can bet in the long run who reaps the consequent prosperity. All this UNLESS, of course the federal government finds it in itself to to apply it's leverage in denying state options.

That is not saying the federal government should not build the fence, national borders is their job, but it is totally within the resources of individual jurisdictions to decide their fate. Through GWB's tragic agenda this has become a federal versus states' rights issue. This is why states are taking up the issue as discussed in the article.

Does anybody here,anybody, trust the United States Senate or the current, or next, President to use the federal ID integration to exclude illegal Mexican immigration? On the other hand does anybody here trust Hillary not to take a political enemy's identity (through "mistakes" in a database)?

These people are really naive.

65 posted on 01/22/2008 3:24:19 PM PST by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: jnsun
I've been reading up on this Real ID for a few minutes and this caught my eye:

Before a card can be issued, the applicant must provide a photo ID or a non-photo ID that includes full legal name and birth date.

Now unless I'm mistaken, this says you can present an ID that the government says isn't good enough in order to get a Real ID that is considered fool proof and will carry a tremendous amount of gravitas. 

LOL, only in America....

66 posted on 01/22/2008 3:30:09 PM PST by HawaiianGecko
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