Posted on 01/21/2008 11:48:53 AM PST by mdittmar
Ash Patel's workers have been leaving him in droves.
It's not because the sagging stock market has forced him to let people go -- Arizona's new immigration law has driven away his staff, Patel said.
"I would estimate I've lost at least 10 to 20 percent of my workforce" in the five Arizona hotels he runs with Southwest Hospitality Management, in anticipation of the law that took effect Jan. 1, Patel said. The company's hotels include a Best Western in Payson, Ariz., and a Fairfield Inn and Ramada in Flagstaff, Ariz.
The law takes a slightly different tack than most immigration controls by aiming squarely at businesses. Get caught employing illegal aliens twice in a 6-month period, and you're out of business.
As Maryland legislators consider putting immigration reform on the table in the General Assembly this spring, laws like those in Arizona, or Oklahoma, where the law not only goes after businesses but also makes it a felony to transport or shelter illegal immigrants, could be used as models.
Maryland Delegate Patrick McDonough, R-Baltimore County, said he's introducing a package of bills aimed at illegal immigration this spring and the Arizona measure caught his eye.
"We may introduce something similar to the Arizona bill," McDonough said. "The folks that helped write that bill are helping us write our bill."
McDonough wants to impose penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants, but he said he's not looking at something quite so broad and stringent -- yet.
"We're trying to start with the state of Maryland," he said. "We want to ban contractors who have employed illegals from state contracts."
Maryland Sen. E.J. Pipkin, R-Caroline, who is running against U.S. Rep. Wayne Gilchrist in the Republican primary, said he's also introducing a package of bills in the Senate to make life more difficult for illegal immigrants.
"I've worked to deny benefits to those here who don't deserve them, and also to make sure that if they're here illegally, they don't get jobs," he said. "We'll look for verification of citizenship before they get hired. If they don't have jobs and they don't have benefits, they'll go home."
In Arizona, the new law has taken an economic toll already. Immigrant workers seem to be leaving the state, but they're leaving behind jobs that some business owners fear won't be filled. In addition, the penalties are frightening businesses away from the state, or freezing their growth, some business owners have said.
With what looks to be a nationwide recession on the horizon, this is not a good thing, said Joseph Sigg, director of government relations for the Arizona Farm Bureau.
"What this law does is create uncertainty for business, increased risk," Sigg said. "Anyone wanting to invest in Arizona is going to be extra wary."
Farm laborers are also scarce.
"Workers are simply not returning just because of the overall climate," Sigg said.
In the hotel industry, Patel said he is paying his workers more than the market rate to try to attract new, legal workers, but he's had little success in the past.
"We've tried everything in the past, but we can't fill some of these positions," particularly entry-level room cleaners and bed-turners, Patel said. "One of the realities that our legislators fail to accept is that the culture of Americans has changed -- we refuse to work at certain jobs out of high school."
Not all Arizona business operators see the rules as unworkable.
Daniel Foster, president of Foster's Painting and Wall Covering, said he fully supports the law. Foster goes even further than the law dictates: he runs a full background check and a drug test for each and every prospective employee.
"If anything comes back, that's it. I don't hire them," Foster said. "I don't have felons working for me, I don't have thieves, I don't have illegal immigrants, and I feel better because my customers are protected better. And you know what? I'm building a company to last."
He said he lost $2 million in business last year by being outbid on contracts by companies he believes were hiring illegal immigrants.
However, he said he's had no problems filling his jobs.
"The phone rings off the hook" when there's a job opening, Foster said. "I just hired two new people today."
In Maryland, no one is positive how such a law would affect the state. But Kathleen Snyder, president and chief executive of the Maryland Chamber of Commerce, said much of Maryland's economy is immigrant-based.
"There are companies throughout the state who rely very, very heavily on illegal immigrants, from tech companies, to hospitals, to people working for seafood companies, to hotels and restaurants on the Eastern Shore of Maryland," Snyder said.
But the main flaw with each state imposing its own immigration reforms, Snyder said, is that it creates a piecemeal compilation of rules that favors some states above others.
"When one state enacts a law that is more onerous than another, it chases business to another state," Snyder said. "It's certainly going to drive some businesses out of the state of Arizona."
Instead, Snyder said immigration reform should come from the federal government.
Maryland Delegate Victor Ramirez, D-Prince George's, agreed, and added funding should be distributed nationwide as well.
"The state of Maryland shouldn't do it without help from the federal government," Ramirez said. "We can pass all the laws we want, but without the resources, it's just feel good to say, 'Hey, we're cracking down on it,' when really it's nothing."
In the end, Maryland's immigration reform is likely to be shaped by its more liberal political climate, and conservatives advocating immigration reform are aware of it.
"We're far more likely to pass legislation giving more rights to illegal immigrants because of the domination by liberal Democrats," said Maryland Sen. Andrew Harris, R-Baltimore County. "These are all uphill fights in the state of Maryland.
Still, that doesn't mean measures might not be proposed.
"The purpose of introducing legislation is to point out problems in the state so that citizens back home can look at them," McDonough said. "You don't refrain from introducing legislation because the governor and the legislature are out of left field from the mainstream thinking of the state of Maryland."
After MD gets rids of the illegals, it will work to make sure the businesses leave as well as higher taxes and prohibitive business environments take their toll.
Viva la revolucion in the communist counties of Maryland!
“I would estimate I’ve lost at least 10 to 20 percent of my workforce” in the five Arizona hotels he runs with Southwest Hospitality Management”
Awwww..
Po’ Wittle fella...
Just PAY MORE, and you’ll have all the emloyees you’ll ever need...
Why do these media-types not understand the SIMPLEST of economic principles?
They are opening a new Walmart Supercenter in the Atlanta metro area and had 10,000+ applicants for the 300-350 expected openings. They don't even have to pay that well.
Mr. Foster, two lines down in this story, shows this old canard as the lie it is.
I suspect there are these reasons his phone rings constantly everytime his business grows and he needs to add another worker:
Even though the place was full, it was cleaner than most of the brand names where we've stayed.
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They ARE paying well... By Mexican standards.
You're breaking the law by hiring illegals, nimrod.
Aiding and abetting used to be a crime.
Bttt
This is the reality here. Any anti-illegal alien talk is just Republican pipe dreams.
Should MD pass this law, employers will have to pass on increased costs to their customers adding more burden to the citizens of the state who suffers from one of the highest cost of living locations in the United States.
Sorry, I can't feel sorry for him. There are large numbers of unemployed Navajo, Hopi and Apache Indians who live in the area around Flagstaff and Payson that could use the jobs that those illegals are taking. They can put those employers in jail for all I care.
If states do these piecemeal employer targeted laws, it will only take a handful of states not to pass such laws to have a detrimental effect on those that do. Businesses that have become addicted to illegal alien employment will relocate to illegal alien friendly states and take the jobs for the legals working there with them.
Won't mention the name of the Golf Course.
For those who don't know Wayne Gilchrest is a long time Republican Congressman from the Eastern Shore, and a small, but populous, part of the western shore of MD. The poultry industry and a fair amount of truck farming, employing large amounts of illegal immigrants (I know because I live there) are a large part of the economic base.
It is a good bet that a significant, probably overwhelming, majority of the taxpaying constituency of Mr Gilchrest would prefer that illegal immigrants be addressed the way they are supposed to be, and the way the law says they should be, that is, excluded from taxpaid US benefits and sent home.
But being the long time politician, Congressman Gilchrest, who I have voted for in the past, and even talked to, knows exactly what he can get away with relative to the support that he gets from corporate agriculture, (Perdue, Tyson, etc.) versus the amount of active and informed concern of the average Joe Constituent.
There is no more classic picture of what is going on across the country than Wayne Gilchrest's play of the public, versus principle, to stay elected.
A number of years ago, about the start of the Clinton episode, Congressman Gilchrest, at least claimed, that he canvassed the Eastern Shore and found that the majority of voters would rather have the US budget balanced than have taxes reduced. The implication being, although he did not specifically say this, that he would go along with tax hikes . The Newspapers reported his survey in this limited manner (with no remonstrance from him). Nothing was ever said, or presented, to his constituency, about "balancing the budget" by reducing federal spending.
Again this was a perfect example about what is going on across the country.
It was about this time that it became evident to me, and I was never inclined to be "political", that the politicians, Republican or Democrat, are truly deceitful people; and the voting public, though most are certainly limited in vision, are never adequately presented all sides; purposely. The nature of a politician is to deceive the people, through half truth, like lawyers, in order to keep their privileges. That is the kind of people who run for office (except maybe Fred Thompson and a few others).
We now live in the district of Congresswoman Thelma Drake, also a Republican. She is exactly, and I mean exactly, like Wayne Gilchrest. She also represents an agricultural district of thousands of illegal immigrants. And she has no more principles than a Wall Street stockbroker, other than you must vote for me to keep the "Democrats" out. There is simply NO way that any real conservative who believes in the responsibility of the individual to face his own decisions in life, away from the tyrrany of behavioral government, who believes the laws are there to support him, can ever support representatives like this. And thus they are losing money like a broken dike.
A friend of mine, a little older and wiser, has consistently said at least you know what the Democrats stand for, out and out Communism.
As a voting public, Americans are not too bright: they read and believe daily the biased "window to the world" of the bigoted Media, they do not understand the Cost of freedom, they vote for totally sinister arrogant a**holes like Hillary Clinton, they look to Hollywood as vicarious experience, they elevate juveniles, who have never owned a business, been to war, or raised a family, as the fount of wisdom, they move through life like a wave of bicamerals, they consider their gonads as the high point of excitement. But at least, at the very least, there should be some politicians that deliver the picture.
I voted for GWB twice, that was the choice the CFR gave us.
So some Marylanders worry about businesses fleeing the state along with the illegal invaders? Gee, how about some compensatory measures, such as cutting corporate and sales taxes, rather then raising them, next time?
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
>Won’t mention the name of the Golf Course.<
If it’s the truth, why not?
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