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To: TigersEye
"Quite a mood you're in tonight."

Full moon.
That and because of the subzero temps, haven't been able to enjoy a fine cigar up in my escape pod for days.
Crabby as hell.

"One might see crooks, slicksters and some say --as in the case of Clintigula-- even murderers (or at least complicit in). Not a fool.

>TE he's not just a garden variety politician...
"McGovern. Mondale. Dukakis. Gore. Kerry."

Yea, and?
Those men, while all losers, are "whales" in the arena of ego.

>Careful assuming the American public understands much of anything, too.
"I was thinking of people who have their eyes open. There are more than perhaps you think there are."

Oh?
We shall see about that.

Fact is, and I've heard no one mention this, the upcoming election's going to clearly illustrate for all --with eyes wide open-- something very important we up to now could only speculate [on].
Namely: The numbers of informed "producers" v.s. the uninformed takers.
As I said up to now we could only speculate about that all-important number; but, if in fact Obama's elected?
Guess what it means, without a doubt, in terms of demographics?
This one's a *real* litmus.

"The "public," by and large, will never get it."

Wait a doggone minute there, *I* am the public.
So are you.
I've long felt there's simply not enough of us and far too many of them and that question's about to be answered.
For once & for finally, I might add.

>Lots of interesting *things* are likely to happen, anyway. All for them, none for us.
"Now that sounds more like the "sky is falling" crowd around here."

So be it.
In one short week I've went from being labeled --by you, incidentally-- an optimist and now the polar opposite.
Que Peggy Lee, here.

"Since when does history unfold smoothly and neatly following the expectations of likelihood? Stuff happens."

Strike "likelihood", insert probability.
Feel better?

>Like his running for the nomination? Like that?
"He done good work in the junior beauty pageant of the primaries."

And some beauty pageant it is/was, too.

>They'd make a fairly respectable *army*, y'know.
"Good for a few weeks rioting no doubt."

Oh, perhaps more than that.
Half the globe's population's Muslim, that's what 2,000,000,000 people or there about?
In any event we all have front row seats and let us not forget Steele believes he won't make the cut.
Let's pray, hope, chant or whatever Steele's correct.

>There're extreme consequences for messing with this so they'd best be careful or they might very well find themselves in someplace akin to Fort Mercy Park.
"I'm not sure who you meant..."

The Clintons.

Clintigula & ruggy better damned well be careful, the path they walk is fraught with all manner of mines & hazards.

"...but my answer is "that's a double edged sword" anyway."

HA!!
Ten years ago I would've agreed with you; but, the times they are a changin' with or without our permission and surely without our understanding.

"That's what I meant about the "unknown quantity." With the whole Kennedy clan in his corner, and who knows who else, I don't think it's safe to bet on who is deadlier. He could be more dangerous than even he knows. What you are saying there is ... stuff happens."

What I'm saying was at 60Hz with what you said, still is.
Moving on.

>Look at this another way, the powers-that-be didn't pick McCain for nothing.
"Or maybe the picked him precisely for nothing."

Y'think?

"Now we're full circle back to what no one wants to think about. It is all planned out."

"Time will tell us, who's trying to sell us.".

...as the ol' song went? :^)

54 posted on 02/21/2008 9:34:40 AM PST by Landru (~& when the band you're in starts playing *different * tunes...)
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To: Landru
Full moon.

And a lunar eclipse too! Sorry, Bro. I enjoy a good cigar too.

Yea, and? Those men, while all losers, are "whales" in the arena of ego.

The key word there is "losers." Doesn't that severely undercut your "no ordinary, groomed for, inevitable" theory?

Wait a doggone minute there, *I* am the public. So are you.

C'mon. Do you and I just swallow whatever is dished out?

For once & for finally, I might add.

My thinking is heavily influenced by the doctrines on impermanence so "for once & for finally" doesn't wash with reality as I see it. But impermanence also suggests that the Republic will come and go too. I won't disagree that the tipping point has come where the electorate has discovered it can vote itself money and we have moved from republic to democracy to socialist state. Dictatorship here we come.

In one short week I've went from being labeled --by you, incidentally-- an optimist and now the polar opposite.

LOLOL There's that impermanence thing again. lmao Ahem, I didn't know you so well last week. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it...for now. /s

Clintigula & ruggy better damned well be careful, the path they walk is fraught with all manner of mines & hazards.

That's true. It's a bet as to who will put who in the Park. And in spite of their myopic arrogance they aren't the only ones who carry daggers under their cloaks. The *army* might get them both (or all three) in Denver. Wouldn't that be something if the rabble did the deed and not another player? Probability is reasonably reliable if you're placing a bet but history has turned on the oddest of events.

Let's pray, hope, chant or whatever Steele's correct.

Always do what you can do in the way you prefer to do it. Also stock up on cigars and popcorn. The show may be a stinker but no sense watching it without some proper accouterments.

What I'm saying was at 60Hz with what you said, still is.

I'll have to ask my teacher what that metaphor means. He has become a HAM fanatic. I may have to become one just to talk to him in the future. He hates the telephone.

...as the ol' song went? :^)

I dont know the words but the refrain is awfully familiar. ;^)

56 posted on 02/21/2008 12:49:44 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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