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TO WOMEN: How to Build A lasting Relationship
1/20/08 | bear_slayer

Posted on 01/20/2008 9:42:43 PM PST by Bear_Slayer

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To: umgud
Thank you for the bump, Umgud!

You DO understand me!!!


201 posted on 01/21/2008 9:19:30 AM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Read my posts too ;)


202 posted on 01/21/2008 9:20:39 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: najida
Very interesting. Thank you for posting your list.

Much of it seems like basic common courtesy...something we owe to everyone, not just our partners.

203 posted on 01/21/2008 9:22:14 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Gosh, Mr. Jeeves: I just looked at your "page." You're not only wise, you're also extreeeeeeemely handsome!!!!!

As a mother, I'm assuming that you have an excellent mother!

204 posted on 01/21/2008 9:23:15 AM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Puhleeze! No woman has ever been a jerk or a pain in the arse, eh? It’s always the guy’s fault, hmm? Ok Alan Alda. Whatever you say.


205 posted on 01/21/2008 9:24:06 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: najida
I’ve never seen a ‘bashing’ men thread here, but hardly week goes by without me noting at least 2 or three “Wimmen R’Evil” threads. It gets tiring.

Then you have an idea why so few men watch television. Not just the daytime stuff but the evening sitcoms and even the commercials.

206 posted on 01/21/2008 9:25:20 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Probably a guy that’s had a sex change operation.


207 posted on 01/21/2008 9:26:13 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I just watch educational stuff.

Anyhow, is FR supposed to be the guys place for balance? If so, I’ll go elsewhere.


208 posted on 01/21/2008 9:27:18 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

LOL! If you read Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, you will know that women do need to talk about, or at least mentally explore, all aspects of their feelings in order to understand them and be at peace. However, it would probably be better for your girlfriend to do this with other women, rather than with you. Or maybe she needs to see a counselor, LOL! An hour or two a day is a lot. My husband and I hardly talk that much in a week! ;-)


209 posted on 01/21/2008 9:27:43 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: CaptainK

Some of the women I have met are lazy. They don’t want to do anything. They are nice at first. Things go well and then they don’t want to do anything. One or two of them were more conservative than me. I consider myself a moderate.

I am a reasonable, easy going person. Tolerate a lot of things that I probably shouldn’t.


210 posted on 01/21/2008 9:30:13 AM PST by racing fan
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To: OldBlondBabe
Pay attention to your wife/girlfriends emotional needs. They are as real to her as your physical needs are to you. You ignore them/belittle them at your peril.

I don't think either side should ignore the other's needs, but there also needs to be some understanding when the differences emerge.

Men need to understand that she may not ALWAYS be in the mood...she doesn't exist to service you. At the same time, women need to realize that he doesn't ALWAYS want to share feelings or thoughts...he does not exist to be your sounding board or confessor. If your partner is not ready to meet you needs from time to time, it doesn't mean they no longer love you.

If they are constantly indifferent to your needs, then you have a problem. A headache every night of the month, or refusal to discuss anything beyond work and ESPN, is a legitimate reason to end a relationship.

211 posted on 01/21/2008 9:32:12 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: timm22

Oddly,
you’re supposed to love your spouse.

I say oddly, because I rarely see it talked about.


212 posted on 01/21/2008 9:32:45 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: najida
you’re supposed to love your spouse.

Oh yeah, I guess that's kind of important, too.

213 posted on 01/21/2008 9:34:44 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: najida

That’s to be expected here, I think where the men outnumber the women by a pretty large degree. I’m happy that we can give them a different viewpoint from a sane level.


214 posted on 01/21/2008 9:36:23 AM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: Hildy

It’s the hate that wears me down.

I can banter and joke, but some posters (not on this thread but others) are The Second Coming Of Ted Bundy, the vitriol gets wicked.

There are two sides to every story. Neither person is perfect.


215 posted on 01/21/2008 9:38:41 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
What? I'm not sure it's possible to miss the point of my post more completely than you did.

Women simply don't behave like that toward men they respect and trust. Change yourself and she will follow your lead. If she still refuses, simply "fire" her and find one who will. Don't get hung up on trying to force any one woman whose physical appearance you happen to like to be what you want - this is where men get into huge trouble.

216 posted on 01/21/2008 9:43:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: racing fan
There are good and bad on both side. Some of the men I have met are irresponsible to the point of not even having a checking account. They have had encounters with the law. And yet they all manage to find girlfriends.

I know woman who are financially set and work like dogs but can’t even find a date.

Go figure.

217 posted on 01/21/2008 9:45:45 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: najida
Anyhow, is FR supposed to be the guys place for balance? If so, I’ll go elsewhere.

No it's not. Please stick around. This is a place where current issues are discussed.

That includes the hostility that boys are treated with in our school systems. There's also comments about the man-bashing on television.

We also talk about the disgusting way many men treat their wives and daughters in muslim countries (and in some cases; the way muslim men treat women in general). A lot of men here get quite hostile about that.

You should know all of this. You've been here longer than me.

I guess it's true. Most people see what they're looking for.

218 posted on 01/21/2008 9:45:53 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Bear_Slayer
I am not sure about any of that, my wife and I have been married for 38 years and while our experience may not be transferable, I will share some of our "secrets".

The wife and I have adjusted to each other over those years, neither of us are the "same person". When we got married I was just out of the Army and was in the best physical shape I would ever be in. Now I am just a old bald headed fat guy. My wife was a cute girl with a great sense of humor. I am fortunate, she has not changed much.

A lot of those issues went away many years ago, generally we already know the answer to any question the other will ask, so much of our communication is silent.

There are some things that she does that annoys the hell out of me, and I know there are some things that I do annoy the hell out of her. We simply agreed to accept the fact that we will on occasions annoy each other and let it go.

We still say "please" and "thank you" to each other and on those rare occasions we have a disagreement we never resort to name calling or belittling the other. (Our family are convinced we never fight, but we have had a few at family functions but no one was aware of it but each other). Most fights only last a few minutes and we either accept the others view point or agree to disagree (there are not many things we disagree on, but there are some and we just accept it.).

While we both are can spend our money there is an unspoken agreement that neither will make a major purchase without the other's approval. Sometimes it takes months to make a major purchase. If we both don't agree, it does not get bought.

We usually tell each other we love each other daily, and give each other good bye kisses if one is leaving the house.

I buy her flowers two or three times a month because I know she likes to have fresh flowers in the house, and in the same token, she will often do something special for me.

So perhaps the seacret is to understand the two of you are a team and you are in it for the long haul and you should not sweat the small stuff, and almost everything is the small stuff.

219 posted on 01/21/2008 9:53:11 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Grizzled Bear

I think we are more sensitive to what we know, or we, like Don Quixote, have our own windmills.

Mine is abuse-— kids, elderly, the insane and females.....all from a personal or work POV. So yeah, it’s what I zoom in on.

And yes, if someone calls me on bashing men, I’ll own up to it. I’ll admit, I will go to my grave with a twerked view of life and a bone deep fear/mistrust/love/hate of males. But I sincerely am trying to understand the hows and whys and whats of it. It’s not their fault, but mine.


220 posted on 01/21/2008 9:53:11 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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