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Unintended Consequences - The Case of the Red-Cockaded Woodpecker
NY Times ^ | January 20, 2008 | STEPHEN J. DUBNER and STEVEN D. LEVITT

Posted on 01/20/2008 3:14:48 PM PST by neverdem

Freakonomics

One year from today, a new president moves into the White House. This president will be eager to carry out any number of plans — including, surely, plans to help the segments of society that most need help. Extending a helping hand, after all, is one of the great privileges and responsibilities of the presidency.

But before charging ahead with such plans, the new president might do well to first ask him- or herself the following question: What do a deaf woman in Los Angeles, a first-century Jewish sandal maker and a red-cockaded woodpecker have in common?

A few months ago, a prospective patient called the office of Andrew Brooks, a top-ranked orthopedic surgeon in Los Angeles. She was having serious knee trouble, and she was also deaf. She wanted to know if her deafness posed a problem for Brooks. He had his assistant relay a message: no, of course not; he could easily discuss her situation using knee models, anatomical charts and written notes.

The woman later called again to say she would rather have a sign-language interpreter. Fine, Brooks said, and asked his assistant to make the arrangements. As it turned out, an interpreter would cost $120 an hour, with a two-hour minimum, and the expense wasn’t covered by insurance. Brooks didn’t think it made sense for him to pay. That would mean laying out $240 to conduct an exam for which the woman’s insurance company would pay him $58 — a loss of more than $180 even before accounting for taxes and overhead.

So Brooks suggested to the patient that they make do without the interpreter. That’s when she told him that the Americans With Disabilities Act (A.D.A.) allowed a patient to choose the mode of interpretation, at the physician’s expense. Brooks, flabbergasted, researched...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ada; deaf; disabilities; esa
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1 posted on 01/20/2008 3:14:50 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Bump


2 posted on 01/20/2008 3:20:03 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: neverdem

I’m shocked that the NY Slimes published this article!


3 posted on 01/20/2008 3:21:06 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem
Because if there is any law more powerful than the ones constructed in a place like Washington, it is the law of unintended consequences.

Excellent! Thanks for posting.

4 posted on 01/20/2008 3:21:30 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: neverdem

This great article was in the NYT? Wonders never cease!


5 posted on 01/20/2008 3:21:38 PM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: neverdem

It’s classic. I knew someone who owned rental apartments. She specifically rented only apartments too small to rent to more than one, because the laws that protect families against landlords are bankrupting for the landlord in NYC.

So laws designed to protect the family, in essence kept them out of apartments.


6 posted on 01/20/2008 3:24:56 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: neverdem
An unintended consequence of laws banning incandescent light bulbs, in the name of fighting global warming, is mercury in land fills.

An unintended consequence of laws mandating ethanol fuel is higher food prices, and likely will eventually be famines.

7 posted on 01/20/2008 3:25:51 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

“I’m shocked that the NY Slimes published this article!”

It either slipped through the censors or they thought they were building the case for socialized medicine.


8 posted on 01/20/2008 3:26:27 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
I can't hear you.

9 posted on 01/20/2008 3:30:13 PM PST by sono (I'm an optimistic realist. I look at the glass half full and ask: "Are you're gonna drink that?")
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To: neverdem
For those of you that haven't read Freakonomics, I highly encourage it. The book is by the same authors as this article, and contains equally fascinating information.
10 posted on 01/20/2008 3:32:25 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: neverdem

Is the NYT trying to salvage at least a vestige of its credibility?


11 posted on 01/20/2008 3:33:05 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: neverdem
In a new working paper that examines the plight of the cactus ferruginous pygmy owl, the economists John List, Michael Margolis and Daniel Osgood found that landowners near Tucson rushed to clear their property for development rather than risk having it declared a safe haven for the owl. The economists make the argument for “the distinct possibility that the Endangered Species Act is actually endangering, rather than protecting, species.”

Government will ALWAYS make things worse, it is not the solution to problems - but the cause. With thanks to RR

12 posted on 01/20/2008 3:41:43 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: sono

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

An appropriate time for the Hillary version of the Apple 1984 commercial.


13 posted on 01/20/2008 3:50:50 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: neverdem
Thanks for posting this!

I deal with the ADA everyday. People do not realize that ADA is not, I repeat, NOT, a building code. It is a Civil Rights Act.

Even if a property owner retrofits his property to meet the ADA guidelines he/she may still be sued if a disabled person thinks that some part of the facility is not 'accessible'. That's right. If, for example, the toilet is not 'accessible' to that person, and the person complains, and it is not made 'accessible' for that one person, that person can sue under the ADA ... even if the toilet was changed to meet the ADA Guidelines.

Also, a property owner can be sued if a person becomes lost on his property. Even non-blind people with 'cognitive difficulties' who cannot read directional signage or maps, have to be 'accomodated' in some other way or the property owner can be sued. (He does have some time to rectify the situation for each individual before he is sued). But, like the doctor in the story, he must make the accomodation at his own cost for each individual person who claims his property is 'inaccessible' in some particular and individual way.

These are just two examples out of possibly hundreds or more.

14 posted on 01/20/2008 3:56:59 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: neverdem

Ever wonder why so many places that used to have drinking fountaiins don’t have them any more? Thank the ADA. Place that provided them as a convenience but weren’t required to have them, took them out because they are a liability towards an ADA suit. Even if they are lowered for wheelchair users, tall people with back problems can sue if they are too low. So a lot of property owners simply took them out.

Ditto with restromms that weren’t required. Rather than retrofit them and still face a possible ADA suit, they were removed or made off limits to the public.


15 posted on 01/20/2008 4:01:00 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: neverdem

Innerestin’


16 posted on 01/20/2008 4:09:26 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: neverdem
Ah-hah! The root of the old adage, “shoot, shovel, and shut-up!

almost any government program touted to address some inequity, injustice, or need is guaranteed to achieve the exact opposite of it’s stated intent.

17 posted on 01/20/2008 4:17:11 PM PST by Segovia (Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.)
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To: neverdem
This is a "Must-Read".

On the local news the other night, they announced the upcoming story :

"President Bush and congress vow to help the economy-When can you expect your check in the mail".

Everyone should see this.

18 posted on 01/20/2008 5:08:40 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for congress, Pray for our nation.)
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To: neverdem

I could rant for an hour on this one. But I won’t.

The most egregious of laws that has a direct negative effect on our economy and society is the minimum wage law.

It’s damages run wide and deep.


19 posted on 01/20/2008 5:25:02 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm voting for FRed, even if I have to write him in.)
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To: neverdem

Excellent article. Amazing that the Times published it. It goes against everything they stand for.


20 posted on 01/20/2008 5:41:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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