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To: Amendment10
Anybody who feels inclined to comment about the above referenced post, please do so in this thread.

We all agree the government has overstepped its bounds. We KNOW that, okay? We are discussing a different method of taxation that, I feel, would make those who currently aren't paying their share feel a little bit of our pain.

This entire forum is all about the evils of big government. We got that part.

196 posted on 01/20/2008 3:21:51 PM PST by groanup (IRS. It's what we live for.)
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To: groanup
We all agree the government has overstepped its bounds. We KNOW that, okay?

Thank you for replying.

With all due respect to your concern about what people "know" about federal government corruption, the problem concerning tax reform is that the people first need to clean up corruption in the federal government, in my opinion, before they will have a solid foundation for implementing fair or flat taxes. After all, what's the point in implementing fair or flat taxes when most of our tax dollars are arguably still going to be spent on constitutionally unauthorized federal spending projects anyway?

Next, given that the historical material that I've been referencing is older than FreeRepublic and some tax reform organizations (corrections welcome), I will argue that this web site shouldn't exist if people were really up to speed, as you have asserted, with the finer points of constitutionally limited federal powers, especially those powers associated spending.

In other words, even in this message board I see people fighting politically correct liberal interpretations of the Constitution with politically correct conservative interpretations of the Constitution. And liberal interpretations are certainly going to win over politically correct conservative interpretations until further notice. This is because liberals have the Constitution-ignoring Supreme Court majority to defend their perversions of the Constitution. In fact, the following links are evidence that ignorance of the Constitution and how the government is supposed to work is epidemic, undoubtedly affecting even some FreeRepublic members.

http://tinyurl.com/npt6t
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
This is why I post comparisons of extracts from authoritative, Constitution-related historical materials with extracts from Court opinions. Post-FDR era Court opininons, particularly from state power related cases, often contain statements which outright contradict the historical material, material which clearly reflects the intentions of constitutional lawmakers.

The bottom line is that the special-interest Supreme Court majority is getting away with perverting the Constitution because the people simply don't know the Constitution and its history.

For example, regardless that the North won the Civil War, post-Civil War pro-Confederacy factions seem to be having the last laugh, arguably winning the cold war aspect of the Civil War from the bench of the Supreme Court. FDR-nominated "former" Klansman Justice Black and his politically correct interpretation of the Confederacy-disdained 14th A., as he used it to help justify applying the establishment clause to the states, comes to mind.

Getting back to fair and flat taxes, again, the Constitution-ignoring federal government needs to be cleaned up, in my opinion, before any tax reform efforts are really going to be worth anybody's time.

Finally, to address your concern about the "obvious" points that I make in my posts, as a rule, I try to limit my rants to one rant per thread. But contrary to your assertion that everybody knows what's going on, and with all due repect to the good intentions of FreeRepublic posters, it is discouraging to see related threads continually popping up which volunteer solutions to government problems based on the same tired, politically correct generalizations about what the Constitution is popularly perceived to say.

262 posted on 01/20/2008 9:49:37 PM PST by Amendment10
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