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FairTax cut for 2-parent families
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 19, 2008 | Howard and Raymond Richman

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:29:07 AM PST by Man50D

During an election season, one of the first losers is the truth. The current misinformation campaign against the FairTax has been particularly virulent. Last month the FairTax was being panned by some columnists as a "crackpot scheme," even though it could be collected exactly the same way as its close cousin, the value-added tax, which is the most successful tax in the world. This month the FairTax is being vilified by various columnists as a tax increase for the middle class, even though it would provide a substantial tax cut for two-parent middle class families. Specifically, in a recent column, George Will asked, "Do you want a president (Mike Huckabee, proponent of a national sales tax of at least 30 percent) pledged to radically increase the proportion of federal taxes paid by the middle class?" Similarly, Time magazine's business and economics columnist Justin Fox wrote a blog piece entitled, "The FairTax and its big break for the $200,000-plus crowd."

The FairTax is a national sales tax that would replace the income taxes, the payroll taxes, and the gift and inheritance taxes. It would be a 30 percent sales tax on retail purchases. Since 30 cents is 23 percent of $1.30 (the amount you would pay on a $1 item), a 30 percent FairTax would cost you about 23 percent of your consumption. To help you pay the tax, you would get a prebate check or a debit card credit at the beginning of each month equivalent to the amount you would pay when buying necessities. In 2007, that amount would have been based upon $10,210 spending per adult and $3,480 spending per child.

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To: Paladin2; wintertime

Here you see the classical evasion of those who try to hide their real motivation.


461 posted on 01/21/2008 8:30:54 PM PST by baybabe
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To: longtermmemmory

It’s not an “overlay” on the income tax, but apparently you’ve not read the bill or much about it.


462 posted on 01/21/2008 8:32:31 PM PST by baybabe
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To: baybabe
It depends on how the tax is calculated - it can be done either way.

What state uses the "tax inclusive" misstatement for its sales taxes?

463 posted on 01/21/2008 8:33:22 PM PST by Mojave
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To: crz

Which is really unfortunate (for them) as most taxpayers would benefit under the FairTax.


464 posted on 01/21/2008 8:35:14 PM PST by baybabe
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To: longtermmemmory

Yoiu’re truly confused, pal. It’s the present tax system that is Marxist - the second plank according to Marx.


465 posted on 01/21/2008 8:36:56 PM PST by baybabe
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To: longtermmemmory

Of course you would since ANY form of flat tax (and you don’t spoecify which flavor you like) is still an income tax - with pretty much all of its drawbacks and expenses - including intrusive reporting.


466 posted on 01/21/2008 8:39:37 PM PST by baybabe
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To: Nextrush

Canada’s GST is a VAT, and nothing like the FairTax. IIRC it’s replete with exemptions and exceptions as well and differe depending upon the part of the country involved. In short, it’s a mess. They also have income taxes, etc. on top of the GST.


467 posted on 01/21/2008 8:45:03 PM PST by baybabe
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To: Paladin2

I think the FairTax will come as close to that description as it is possible to do since even for those paying more there is the offset of an improved economy to boost what would be favorable activity for most taxpayers.


468 posted on 01/21/2008 8:50:45 PM PST by baybabe
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To: lewislynn
It's good to see that one like you can actually learn (finally).

Keep up the good work.

469 posted on 01/21/2008 8:54:04 PM PST by baybabe
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To: Paladin2
I realize how difficult this sort of thing is for you, but how about studying this paper to get your answers.

Most of us are tired of leading the horse to water in your case.

470 posted on 01/21/2008 8:59:23 PM PST by baybabe
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To: Paladin2

In youir case that’s understandable. Read the bill. Your question is answered there.


471 posted on 01/21/2008 9:01:47 PM PST by baybabe
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To: Smokin' Joe

Certainly that’s true - but let’s not give the pols the ideal tool to hide their spending/taxing shenanigans. Let’s take away the income tax and make it pubicly observable since the IT has far, far too many hiding place for mischief.


472 posted on 01/21/2008 9:04:40 PM PST by baybabe
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To: baybabe
Last month the FairTax was being panned by some columnists as a "crackpot scheme," even though it could be collected exactly the same way as its close cousin, the value-added tax, which is the most successful tax in the world.

Canada’s GST is a VAT, and nothing like the FairTax.

So you're rejecting the article.

473 posted on 01/21/2008 9:06:12 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

More unsupported nonsense - just meaningless babble of things that aren’t true.


474 posted on 01/21/2008 9:07:10 PM PST by baybabe
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To: Mojave

Nope - you’re misstating the case and apparently don’t (or don’t want to) know it.


475 posted on 01/21/2008 9:08:32 PM PST by baybabe
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To: baybabe
More unsupported nonsense

You don't pay income taxes on saved money. You'll get pounded by the FT when you spend your savings.

476 posted on 01/21/2008 9:09:56 PM PST by Mojave
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To: baybabe
Nope - you’re misstating the case

It's an exact quote from the article. Look again.

477 posted on 01/21/2008 9:10:51 PM PST by Mojave
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To: baybabe

“Sory to disappoint you, but savings are not taxed under the FairTax.”

You being sarcastic? Why?

So, if I’ve saved $30,000 (after tax)from the past years and decide to buy a car with that under a fair tax plan, they somehow know that I have already paid tax on that money so the FT Man will not extract a 30% sales tax on the purchase?


478 posted on 01/21/2008 9:18:17 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight

Retirees will just have to limit their purchases to used cars.


479 posted on 01/21/2008 9:20:55 PM PST by Mojave
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To: baybabe
Let’s take away the income tax and make it pubicly observable since the IT has far, far too many hiding place for mischief.

Well, that would certainly strip things down to their essentials. Freudian slip? (8^D)

I'd like to do away with the income tax, simply because I think it was misapplied anyway.

Exchanging my labor for a more portable and universally acceptable medium of exchange is an exchange, not income. I was out what I put into the equation (labor, expertise), and the exchange occurred at fair market value (otherwise, it would not have happened).

But the IRS wants to tax barter exchanges as if they were income, too.

480 posted on 01/21/2008 9:25:05 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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