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To: AmericanInTokyo

It all depends on your definition of young.

My attitude is younger than my age.

Good to see a post from you.

I grew up “politically” in the 1970’s and can see the bloodline that runs from Nelson Rockefeller all the way to John McCain.

The “surge” in Iraq for example, which McCain supports, is part of an overall strategy to start talking to nations in the region like Syria and Iran.

You know as with North Korea the “Axis of Evil” is now being treated like the Soviets were in the Cold War. Its a containment policy with secret understandings and behind the scenes negotiations.

It does noting to stop the evil nations from secretly plotting and planning future actions like making missiles and nuclear bombs.

Iran backs off in Iraq and a National Intelligence Estimate appears that says Iran isn’t so dangerous after all.

The Foreign Policy Establishment is ruling the roost in DC right now and wants to keep it that way with McCain.


24 posted on 01/20/2008 5:36:27 AM PST by Nextrush (MCCAIN IS THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE, STOP HIM AT ALL COSTS)
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To: Nextrush
Iran backs off in Iraq and a National Intelligence Estimate appears that says Iran isn’t so dangerous after all.

Interesting analysis

What are your thoughts on the fact that China had been unwilling to support increased sanctions of Iran?

It seems to me that with the subprime mess coupled with higher barrel prices due to uncertainity of war with Iran that fewer americans were spending. China got hit in the pocket book and was willing to support sanctions.

Following this, Iran backed off and subsequently it was discovered in the NIE that Iran had shelved its nuke program in 03.

45 posted on 01/20/2008 5:49:06 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Nextrush
I grew up “politically” in the 1970’s and can see the bloodline that runs from Nelson Rockefeller all the way to John McCain.Huh? John McCain has nothing to do with Nelson Rockefeller. He's from Arizona and the US Navy. Geeze. Maybe you should be supporting Ron Paul! You sound like a Ron Paul supporter!!

The “surge” in Iraq for example, which McCain supports, is part of an overall strategy to start talking to nations in the region like Syria and Iran.Huh? The surge in Iraq is a military policy designed to break the resistance and corner Al Qaeda by isolating them. It has nothing to do with on-going discussions with Syria and Iraq.

You know as with North Korea the “Axis of Evil” is now being treated like the Soviets were in the Cold War.Hmm. That seemed to work out pretty well. I mean we won the cold war, didn't have a nuclear war. So as a model it seems pretty good.

Its a containment policy with secret understandings and behind the scenes negotiations.You say. Is this from Gary North's web site or something?

It does noting to stop the evil nations from secretly plotting and planning future actions like making missiles and nuclear bombs.It's a big world. There are lots of people who don't like the USA. I don't think we can stop evryone from secret plotting and planning. Hell the Soviets stated publically they were going to crush us, and they had a hell of a lot more missles (with Multiple Independently Targeted Nuclear Warheads) than the mad mullahs of Iran.

Those "Rockefeller Republicans" you speak so derisively of include Nixon, Kissinger, Ford, and others who helped the USA survive that era. I don't think they did THAT bad a job. But then I'm not a conspiracy minded paranoid, either.

The President who almost got us baked was JFK. A charismatic, Democrat who won election when GOP voters who had twice elected Ike didn't stand up for the party choice of Nixon. Bad call. We almost had a glowing Florida due to that bit if truculance. The Foreign Policy Establishment is ruling the roost in DC right nowWhat, exactly, does that mean? The Dems run Congress. Bush runs the executive branch. The Council on Foreign Relations runs seminars and publishes books.

... and wants to keep it that way with McCain.Even if true, so what? As you pointed out more Republians voted against McCain then for him in this big victory of his. If the FPE, as you call it, is so powerful they better get to work and steal some elections or something.

Please try to reconsider your fear of the 'foreign policy establishment' and Rockefeller, etc. You sound like you've read one too many Lyndon LaRouche pamphlets or something.

Things are, exactly as they seem. The GOP is divided. There are a lot of sub-groups in the big tent: Evangelicals, Value Voters, Free Trade Advocates, Libertarians, Westerners, Southerners, Mormons, Defense supporters, and yes even New Englanders. This year we have an open primary, and a bunch of good candidates, each particularly strong with one sub-group. It's going to take a while to boil all this down, but the people are deciding. Sadly the process favored independents and democrats a bit too much early on, in my opinion. (With cross voting permitted in both New Hampshire and Michigan.) But now we are into the guts of the thing and the majority of primaries are Republican Only. The Media has spectacularly FAILED to have their beloved "sweep" scenario happen. This is good. More states are going to have more say in the selection of the Republican nominee than any election in my lifetime. I don't see much to complain about in terms of the process. If the outcome has not yeilded "your perfect conservative' it is probably because he/she doens't exist or didn't want to run.

72 posted on 01/20/2008 6:09:56 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Nextrush

Well the way McCain is treating the Surge in Iraq on the campaign trail you would think he invented the stadegy the same way Al Gore invented the Internet.

I still can’t believe people have forgotten McCain was in cahoots with Kerry as a possible VP on the Democratic ticket in ‘04.

And IMHO, McCain is using his Military Record the same as Kerry used his in the last election.

Too many similaries between McCain and the Democratic ‘04 Presidential Candidate JFKerry for my political taste.

BTW, why aren’t we talking Immigration Policy? It should be a big issue for the Republican Platform, yet it seems to be tossed by the way-side. It’s one of our biggest vulnerabilties in the War or Terror. Not everyone coming across our borders is Mexican.


169 posted on 01/20/2008 7:21:27 AM PST by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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