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To: MNJohnnie

“Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook”

Please support this statement.

War
McCain = Continue the surge
Clinton = Pull out

Spending
McCain = Cut spending
Clinton = Increase spending

Economic stimulus:
McCain = Cut corporate tax rates
Clinton = Increase aid for food stamps and welfare, raise corporate tax rates.

Abortion
McCain = Pro Life
Clinton = Pro baby killing

Ethanol subsidies
McCain = Get rid of them
Clinton = Help the “farmers” increase them.

Judges
McCain = In the mold of Alito or Roberts
Clinton = Bill Clinton


Sitting out of this election is like a 4 year old pouting that they didn’t get a new toy. There is a lot on the line in this (and every) election. By deciding NOT to vote you are de facto voting for Clinton.

Thanks for wanting to screw the country for the sake of pouting that Duncan Hunter didn’t win.


46 posted on 01/19/2008 8:49:52 PM PST by tj21807
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To: tj21807
So throwing away my vote on "Hillary Clinton Lite" John McCain would be "smart"? A politician who is almost 100% anti my Limited Govt, Libertarian political values is my political enemy no matter WHAT politcal label you pick to slap on him.

That he bravely served his country 40 years ago does not cause us to forget the enormous political damage he did to this country just in the last 8 years.

Try waving your boogie man Clinton some where else. Voting for the politically stupid just because he isn't politically evil is still voting for stupid. Try selling your rah rah "party uber alles" BS somewhere else. After 30 years of watching you clowns in action I am done buying this stupid ignorant crap from mindless party water boys.

Screaming hysteric insults at everyone does NOT answer the legitimate points I raised here. TRY again. Factually and rationally address this or quit wasting my time you foolish child.

Convince me. Address the facts. Make a rational case for John McCain. Just screaming rah rah political nonsense because you have a mindlessly emotion based adoration for John McCain's Cult of Personality wrapped in a hysteric ignorant fear of Hillary Clinton will NOT win you one single vote here.

Exhibit. American Conservative Union rates McCain 45th, out of 49 Republican Senators this week.

No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other candidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.

72 posted on 01/19/2008 9:14:56 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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