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To: counterpunch

“Republican presidential candidate Duncan Hunter will drop out of the race for the White House Saturday, FOX News confirms.”

In other news, the sky is blue and the sun rises in the east.

Sarcasm aside, as mentioned previously, Hunter should have dropped out weeks ago. He could have thrown his weight behind Fred and possibly have made a difference.

An endorsement of Huckabee is laughable, though I imagine this would quiet down the Hunter supporters.

Time to circle around McCain and help him beat Hillary.


20 posted on 01/19/2008 8:26:46 PM PST by tj21807
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To: tj21807
Time to circle around McCain and help him beat Hillary.

McCain cannot beat Hillary.

You think running a worn out tired DC Machine politcan with a war record against the Clintonites has a hope in hell of winning? Ever heard of Bob Dole?

10 months ago the only guy who could beat Hillary in all the polls was Rudy G. Where is he now? Are you people honestly dumb enough to think polls 10 months before a General Election can tell you who will win? Before any General campaign is ever started?

Now let us look at that historic record.

Really tough for the party in the WH to win 3 elections running. Who has a better chance beating a Democrat Senator? Another Senator or someone NOT tied to the DC political machine?

Let us look at the historic record of the last 30 years.

1976 Carter ran as the populist outsider against DC. Carter Won.

1980. Reagan ran as an outsider going to DC to clean up the mess. Reagan won

1984. Old Machine politician and former Senator Mondale ran by the Democrats against Reagan. Reagan won.

1988. VP running on the Reagan legacy against a DC outsider barely won.

1992 DC outsider ran against sitting President. Outsider Clinton won.

1996 Old career Senator named Dole with a stellar war record ran against Sitting President. President Clinton won.

2000 DC outsider ran against sitting President's VP, outsider Bush won by a few hundred votes.

2004 Old career Senator named Kerry with a supposed stellar war record ran against sitting President. President won.

2008. The GOP Establishment plans to run an old tired worn out career Senator with a war record against the former 1st Lady or a 1 term Senator.

Based on that historic record just why would anyone be so hopelessly naive to think McCain has any chance at all against Clinton Inc?

32 posted on 01/19/2008 8:38:28 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: tj21807
Between Huck and McCcain McCain would be the far worst choice.

We think Huck will betray Conservatives, we KNOW McCain will.

Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.

36 posted on 01/19/2008 8:41:05 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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