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| Alexander Tyler - 1787 Scotland; Prof. Joseph Olson - Hemline Univ. School of Law, St. Paul, MN
Posted on 01/19/2008 5:58:50 PM PST by ImpBill
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To: ImpBill
It's a nice piece with interesting sentiments and ideas, but it's been around a LONG time. See what
Snopes has to say about it.
To: ImpBill
Good post, and good read. Based on a recent survey also posted here stating that 51% of our fellow citizens now value security over privacy, I'd guess we're a little farther down the road than the author believes.
I'd put us about here:
7. From apathy to dependence
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:02:25 PM PST
by
CowboyJay
(Better shot in the face than stabbed in the back. Just say no to RiNO's.)
To: ImpBill
I'm a little late comeing into this thread, but if hasn't been said yet, let me be the first to say it,
"We are not a democracy!"
and if we held true to our foundations we would not have gotten into this mess."
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:07:02 PM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
To: Rome2000
For a while, however, some colonies required published lists showing how each voter cast his ballot.Public records from that time period show that my five times great-grandfather voted for Gen. Washington for president.
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:13:53 PM PST
by
Inyo-Mono
(If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
To: Sherman Logan
The Chinese have had major interruptions and modifications to their system, but a unique continuous Chinese civilization with a great many characteristics in common throughout, can be traced back at least 3,000 years. That's great!
. . . but they're still living under communist slavery. So, it doesn't matter that they have a slightly unbroken chain of civilization, they don't have (never did have) a government that protects individual freedom -- and neither will we if our government continues down the path it's going.
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:16:51 PM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
To: ProfessorGage
"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy that did not commit suicide.
John Adams" That's why they created a Representative Republic . . . NOT a democracy. Therefore, the premise is wrong if it is referring to America.
To: Eastbound
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:34:43 PM PST
by
phs3
(If you call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
To: Congressman Billybob
Dead on CB. It sounds good, but there are no bona fides for Tytler having ever said it. The closest is Juvenal's "panem et circenses."
The people that once bestowed commands, consulships, legions, and all else, now concerns itself no more, and longs eagerly for just two things - bread and circuses!from Satires
It says the same thing basically.
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:38:43 PM PST
by
Sudetenland
(Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If Fred doesnt win in the end....we have a lot less time than we would otherwise. We can still take back the Congress and Senate, and it seems that
the MSM has taken that off the plates of Americans. Why?, well,
just look at who's in control of the Congress and Senate. One never shows
their intentions in a game of chess. Distraction is the agenda from the MSM.
This is going to be one hard year for Freedom, and I'm in!
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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posted on
01/19/2008 9:38:58 PM PST
by
MaxMax
(God Bless America)
To: ImpBill
I have long felt that, unfortunately, America reached her apex a number of decades ago now I figure 1954 was "the year" of the apex....
- John
To: phs3
Never trust a non-Citizen to define the American political system. Never having lived it, they know not what it is. Rights come from God and Citiaens know instinctively when someone trespasses on those rights, particularly government, which was created to protect those rights.
Sounds like Toqueville was one Toque over the line.
To: phs3
PS: Thanks for the link, phs3.
To: ImpBill
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.Ironically, a rat President could never get this done because the GOP could unite in "loyal opposition"... On the other hand, a scumbag like McCain COULD get it done, with the help of just a few friendly "moderate" Republicans.
To: ImpBill
'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.' 'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.' Here are some quotes by Ludwig Von Mises, the "dean of the Austrian school of economics," expressing much the same concept.
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."
"Credit expansion can bring about a temporary boom. But such a fictitious prosperity must end in a general depression of trade, a slump."
"True, governments can reduce the rate of interest in the short run. They can issue additional paper money. They can open the way to credit expansion by the banks. They can thus create an artificial boom and the appearance of prosperity. But such a boom is bound to collapse soon or late and to bring about a depression."
"Credit expansion is not a nostrum to make people happy. The boom it engenders must inevitably lead to a debacle and unhappiness."
"What is needed for a sound expansion of production is additional capital goods, not money or fiduciary media. The credit boom is built on the sands of banknotes and deposits. It must collapse."
"If the credit expansion is not stopped in time, the boom turns into the crack-up boom; the flight into real values begins, and the whole monetary system founders."
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posted on
01/19/2008 10:42:34 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
To: muir_redwoods
I would hope somebody that sees me might think “this guy has potential.”
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posted on
01/19/2008 10:55:13 PM PST
by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
To: exit82
Two years into her first term will provide what outcome?
FReep mail if need be.
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posted on
01/19/2008 11:09:59 PM PST
by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
To: ImpBill
Howdy, ImpBill. Please ping me when y’all start talking about remedy. Not talking about band-aids. Thanks.
To: Fishrrman; ImpBill
I have long felt that, unfortunately, America reached her apex a number of decades ago now. I figure 1954 was "the year" of the apex....
GMTA, I have said 1955 or 1956 was "the year"
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posted on
01/20/2008 4:02:07 AM PST
by
TYVets
(God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
To: ImpBill
We are in deep chit, that’s for sure.
To: ImpBill
I thought that the frenchman, De Tocquiville(sp)made the comment about the voters voting themselves goods, and once they figured out how to do that we were finished.
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posted on
01/20/2008 6:10:40 AM PST
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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