[Ben Ficklin]

If given all the facts, most people would support neither the rancher’s position nor the enviro’s position.

[kindred]

[If given all the facts, most people would support neither the rancher’s position nor the enviro’s position.]

I don’t think that is true. If given all the facts, the majority of the not thinking people would see who the enviormentalists are and support the ranchers who grow the cattle that we ear in resteraunts and at home.
Most enviormentalists are marxist communists vegetarians who insist that all eat vege only and that is enough for me to despise them, not to mention every greenie I ever knew as a liberal communist.

[depenzz]

I use to bow hunt in the Gila Wilderness and we did not have any modern conveniences, they were'nt allowed. We were back about 25 miles by horseback and it was unbelievable. On one occassion we saw about 7 or 8 cattle which was the remains of herds that use to graze there, all of which were removed, I guess by the very thing this thread is talking about.

I must say, roughing it was the greatest and although the idea behind all this is to preserve it for future generations to see what their forefathers found when they arrived there is kind of foolish because there will only be a handfull of people ever see what is there. I'm sure not many will get back in the Gila Wilderness.