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Barack Obama: I'm no Muslim
Times Online ^ | January 16, 2008 | Tim Reid

Posted on 01/17/2008 8:51:46 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn

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To: COgamer

Just sloppy journalism, perhaps. After his years spent in foreign lands (Indonesia, Harvard) and his failure to place his hand over his heart, I was beginning to wonder whether Obama was genuinely ignorant as to the meaning of the pledge of allegiance.


21 posted on 01/17/2008 9:16:07 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Obama’s “church” is less concerned with the gospel than it is with race and the “mother continent”. If the mother continent is more important to you than Christ, you are not a Christian. Obama’s church is really just another manifestation of the doctrines of the Nation of Islam, and Obama’s pastor at that church is a great admirer of Farrakan.
22 posted on 01/17/2008 9:19:41 PM PST by mojito
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Why Did mr. Obama’s Pastor give an award 2 years to Luis Farrakhan?
23 posted on 01/17/2008 9:19:44 PM PST by Sammy67 (John Edwards)
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To: chaos_5

I don’t think he’s currently a Muslim, but he is a little coy with how he was raised. He grew up in a Muslim country with a Muslim step-father, who took him to Mosque, where he prayed as a Muslim. He may have changed his mind subsequently, but he is an apostate to the Muslim world, and to our world, he is someone who will be a little too favorable to Muslims and their stone-age religion at this point in our history. We need someone who does not believe they are the “ROP” and someone who sees their threat not as religious but political. They are a fascist Arab imperialist movement. Obama will respect their phony religion too much. I don’t respect Nazis and Islam is just a form of Nazism for Arabs.


24 posted on 01/17/2008 9:20:02 PM PST by Defiant (Hillary needs Obama in the race to make it seem she has experience by comparison.)
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To: Defiant

“Took him to a mosque???”

Whaddaya call that muslim school he went to there?
“Madrassah” maybe?


25 posted on 01/17/2008 9:23:35 PM PST by Redbob
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To: madison10
I think he just forgot about the hand-over-the-heart practice in the flag picture.

I have forgotten it before, until I notice others doing it but I'm a whole lot older than osama obama. I'm a vet and I'd rather salute than do the hand over heart thing but I don't know if that is acceptable for someone not in uniform.

26 posted on 01/17/2008 9:26:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Obama's answer is nothing short of bizarre. He clearly appears to believe the fact that he "pledges allegiance to the flag" is somehow evidence relevant to proving his claim that he is a Christian

I agree, this is a very strange non-answer. It leads me to believe more than ever that his membership in the UCC is a matter of convenience only, plus the fact that you can go through a whole UCC service, as I have, and never hear the name of the Lord spoken once.

Any true Christian would simply speak to the saving grace of the incarnate God Jesus Christ-- but those words would probably burn this moslem pagan's lips.

27 posted on 01/17/2008 9:26:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I don’t think I will be finding out if he is a Muslum. I will not vote for him.


28 posted on 01/17/2008 9:28:41 PM PST by freekitty
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To: chaos_5
"The idea the Obama is a Muslim is a Clinton lie. Just about that simple."

He claims that his muslim father played no role in his religious upbringing, and that his Christian mother placed him in Catholic school, in Indonesia, for four years. I find it very hard to believe that his Christian mother wanted to raise him strictly Christian but none-the-less named him Barak Hussein Obama. There's far too much contradictory evidence that he is truly a Christian. Also, Obama himself states that his step father was indeed a practicing Muslim. After his mother's second marriage Obama spent at least one year in a predominently MUSLIM school, after his Catholic schooling, in Indonesia, which is a predominently MUSLIM nation. After graduating from college, Obama began attending a congregation affiliated with the United Church of Christ , a Protestant denomination. Obama stated that he was moved by the "power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change". His African affairs centered 'church' is seeking social change more than anything else.

I don't know exactly what Obama is, but he surely is one very confused man. He has affiliations with two institutions that believe they have the innate right to lie to advance their beliefs, Islam and the Democrat Party.

29 posted on 01/17/2008 9:31:47 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, where there by any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Barack Hussein Obama: I'm no Muslim

There. Fixed it.

30 posted on 01/17/2008 9:36:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (If Romney's a "conservative," the Left has succeeded at making words mean nothing at all)
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To: houstonman58
He may not be all that strong of a Christian, this is apparent by his support for abortion, for example. But, if he isnt much of a Christian he is a VERY poor excuse for a Muslim.

Anyway, I don't support him. I just think it’s a little paranoid to call him a Muslim.

31 posted on 01/17/2008 9:38:12 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: chaos_5
Did you ever think that he might be a plant? A cell. A snook?

Holly buckets. A plant in the USA Predicency?

Just throw him overboard and let's see who he prays to.

32 posted on 01/17/2008 9:47:20 PM PST by AGreatPer ("The Democrats don't give a rats ass about this country"....Rush Limbaugh, 11/15/07)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
He's not a mohammedan.
And he's not a Christian either.
Just another socialist atheist who tries to cover himself in the veneer of Christianity because he's a member of some church that claims the Name of Christ (yet preaches the 'gospel' of race and not of Christ).

Isaiah 4:1
And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

Lots of people will want to be covered by HIS Name ('for there is none other Name under Heaven, given among men, whereby we must be saved...)'...yet live in their 'own way'.
This is not going to happen.

No, I don't believe Mr. Hussein Obama is a mohammedan. But he's not a Christian either.

33 posted on 01/17/2008 9:47:49 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: AGreatPer
Just throw him overboard and let's see who he prays to.

LOL That reminds me of the Monty Python witch skit.


34 posted on 01/17/2008 9:51:25 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
No suprise here. As far as I'm concerned he's a stinkin' filthy, frothing at the mouthed moonmbat having about as much of a clue concerning issues pertaining to international relations as ElRon. Both their ideas may work well under the influence of the water-bong (but nowhere else in the universe).

ElRon actually has that going for him, in that his econcomic ideologies could actually work, and some of his social policies 9as liberal as they may be - tempered with his consservative ecomic theories - might actually work too). But he's just as out of touch with international relations (as is Obama) that the two might as well be playing Euchre with the Abominable Snowmonster, Elvis on the Dark Side of the Moon. Hey, wait! As a matter of fact: its all dark!

35 posted on 01/17/2008 9:53:53 PM PST by raygun (If you're going to curse, do it in YOUR name, o.k.? - God)
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To: Redbob; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; AdmSmith; ...

New , secret Transatlantic Alliance may possibly counter global economy damage by Islamists

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-order-or-disorder.html

Insidious, duplicitious encroachment of Islam into our schools

http://alanpetersroundup.blogspot.com/2008/01/distortion-of-islam-by-islamists-in-our.html


36 posted on 01/17/2008 9:54:24 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 01/17/2008 9:55:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: raygun

He’s left tracks and footprints all over the web demonstrating his solid, undiluted, mindless devotion to whatever talking points the radical left is spewing at the moment.

So, I tend to agree with your assessment.


38 posted on 01/17/2008 9:59:42 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Schwaeky
None of this matters.. Vote the issues, not whether he worships the Son of Man or a moon rock, and on the issues he is dead wrong...

He has been raised by the establishment, a force to be reckoned with.....

39 posted on 01/17/2008 10:03:39 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: clamper1797

That picture will haunt Obama in October, if he makes it that far. He just couldn’t resist indulging his childish anger against the nation that has given him so much.


40 posted on 01/17/2008 10:05:05 PM PST by devere
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