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To: Dead Corpse
"It'd just be some tinkerer with a malfunctioning rifle."

Yeah, some tinkerer that gave a malfunctioning rifle to a "student" to play with.

"Thanks for sticking up for the government though."

Truth matters.

"I'm sure they're happy to have people like you defending their unConstitutional actions."

Irrelevant. You claimed the gun was not a machine gun, that it simply malfunctioned, and the ATF manufactured evidence.

37 posted on 01/17/2008 11:46:02 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets

I have seen - personally - the BATF do EXACTLY that, manufacture evidence.

The case involved a built-from-parts AR-15. It had all AR-15 parts, including receiver, with the exception of the bolt carrier. There was no full-auto position. In fact, there was a manufactured bump out on the receiver that would prevent the selector from ever being put over to the rock’n’roll position. The defendant built four of these rifles.

Once in a while, when rapid firing on semi-auto, the thing would kick off two or three rounds and then jam. BATF got hold of one and took it to their lab. They used soft primer ammo, and ‘tuned’ it to get it to rip through a mag. In short, THEY made it into a machine gun and then prosecuted the guy they bought it from. He even had a letter from the BATF ahead of time saying that what he was doing was legal so long as the thing didn’t have the auto sear or modifications to the receiver.

So, don’t tell me that the BATF is above doing this. I spent time in Federal Court testifying and watched the entire trial. The only reason that the defendant won was that he had none other than Col. William C. Davis himself come in a testify for the defense that it was BATF’s abuse of the weapon that made it full-auto.


53 posted on 01/17/2008 12:37:06 PM PST by SargeK
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To: spunkets
You claimed the gun was not a machine gun, that it simply malfunctioned, and the ATF manufactured evidence.

As proven by the first set of BATFE tests I posted. The BATFE is noted for arbitrary standards and manufacturing things when the evidence doesn't go their way. This is documented.

Just keep on shilling for your buddies in the BATFE though. It's entertaining if nothing else.

59 posted on 01/17/2008 1:37:19 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: spunkets

Dude...read the initial report.... ATF’s own lab said NOT a machine gun.


81 posted on 01/17/2008 8:42:26 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please help us to elect a Godly and patriotic man for President in 08, Amen.)
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