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Ten Ways to Prepare for a Post-Oil Society
The [socially progressive] Canadian/ Agora Cosmopolitan, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada ^ | 12 January 2008 | James Howard Kunstler

Posted on 01/16/2008 3:45:36 PM PST by dufekin

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Yes, this is "gloom and doom." Is he realistic? Perhaps, but very severely pessimistic. Let's call this "agenda" a plan hatched in a pessimist's worst-case scenario. And he's a poorly informed pessimist at that.

But we face a very serious issue here. Global petroleum production has stabilized, not increased, since 2004, and prices continue to soar. We perhaps could drill for oil in this country, but that's terminally impolitic and increasingly so despite rapidly increasing prices. How do we personally ensure our survival in a world suddenly deprived of oil? What if the Islamic Republic of Iran successfully closes off the Straits of Hormuz, shutting in a good proportion of global oil supply?

And what happens when Hillary Rodham Clinton gains the Presidency? She won't drill for oil, and she might capitulate to the Islamofascist terrorists and their allies in the oil-producing regions. We get one-third of our oil from this country and import the rest. How do our families survive when we cannot import oil?

1 posted on 01/16/2008 3:45:40 PM PST by dufekin
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you’ll know that things are dire

when gore, bono, and all the bozos

stop flying around the world on jet airplanes.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 3:49:28 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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I'll get by with a little help from my friends.

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3 posted on 01/16/2008 3:52:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: dufekin

I vote for teleportation.


4 posted on 01/16/2008 3:53:38 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: dufekin

The post-oil regime has been expected off and on for 150 years. It is not going to happen abruptly after all, but we will find ourselves in reduced circumstances and may have to forget about suburbia.


5 posted on 01/16/2008 3:55:06 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: dufekin

The simple answer to all of those far-fetched scenarios is equally simple - I will take what I need to ensure the survival of me & mine...


6 posted on 01/16/2008 3:55:41 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: dufekin

Some good points: education - already failed - and oil - billions to the enemy.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 3:55:53 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: dufekin

This is a bunch of garbage. Two new technologies are about to eliminate the energy problem. One is workable nuclear fusion. There are three new approaches that show extreme promise. One just got a huge cash infusion from Paul Allen, a man not known for wasting his money. The other is the new battery tech based on nanofiber Silicon. That’s been posted about here a couple times. It permits basically a ten times increase in the weight to energy storage ratio of batteries using existing technologies.

In short, in 5 years oil will be a thing of the past except for mfg. and legacy (i.e., your current car) uses. Gasoline powered cars won’t vanish overnight, but their numbers will go down significantly over time, and then the law of supply and demand will crush oil prices.

Of course, the greens-socialists will find something that will “kill us all” in this tech, too, I’m sure, but it will be a real stretch that most should have learned to see through.


8 posted on 01/16/2008 3:56:42 PM PST by piytar
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To: ken21

That will occur only when they die. For those of us without our own private jets, fuel for our motor vehicles will become too prohibitively expensive to make driving to work profitable after taxes and fueling long before they quiver. And don’t forget the price implications that diesel fuel prices will have on the cost of food and other goods.


9 posted on 01/16/2008 3:56:48 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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People will figure out a way to make personal transportation happen. Count on it.

We can make oil from coal.

We can come up with better electric cars, and build more nuclear generating plants.

And that’s just for starters, with pretty well developed technologies. Algae-based biofuel is one that’s on the horizon (burning corn is a lousy idea). There are others.

We aren’t going back to walking and horses.


10 posted on 01/16/2008 3:57:28 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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From Wiki:

"Kunstler, who majored in Theater at college and has no formal training in the fields in which he prognosticates, made similar predictions for Y2K as he makes for peak oil.[5][6] Kunstler responds to this criticism by saying that a Y2K catastrophe was averted by the hundreds of billions of dollars that were spent fixing the problem, a lot of it "in secret," he claims.[7]"

It would appear that he's still majoring in theater.

11 posted on 01/16/2008 3:57:32 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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I will take what I need

Most of that will play out in two weeks, then we can begin to work out the situation in a civilized manner.

12 posted on 01/16/2008 3:57:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: dufekin

Why not just reduce the population by 75% and avoid the problem altogether?


13 posted on 01/16/2008 3:57:46 PM PST by Brilliant
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Football shoulder pads, umpire vests, and hockey shinguards lined with rabbit fur make good armor for protection against the horde of desert barbarians who will roam the Earth looking for fuel.

Learning basic archery using the crossbow will also prove to be a valuable skill, as will throwing the sharpened metal boomerang.

Stockpile ammo and firearms now. Don't wait another minute.

14 posted on 01/16/2008 3:57:52 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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This person is a committed Marxist. He wants to remake society to suit his ideals. His thinking is not much different than the other grand Marxists except that he does not explicitly call for human slaughter. If Marxists like him gain power, they will use every coercive measure available to force us into their Utopian view.

We will only be deprived of oil if Marxists like the author get their way. They want to suppress the economic activity that they do not like.


15 posted on 01/16/2008 3:58:03 PM PST by businessprofessor
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com not in MY lifetime...
16 posted on 01/16/2008 3:58:09 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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I’m still busy getting ready for the coming ice age.


17 posted on 01/16/2008 3:58:36 PM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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To: cripplecreek

I think you and I had the same idea, but sadly on different sides of the conflict. :(


18 posted on 01/16/2008 4:00:33 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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Survival of the fittest and my sevices for sale cheap.


19 posted on 01/16/2008 4:02:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: dufekin

Interesting topic, thank you. I wonder if any of the politicians know what they are talking about when they spout “energy independence.” When it comes to oil, we are locked into a certain amount of dependence forever. As I understand it, we need more refining capability; not sure what has held this up.

However, peak oil has some validity to it. We are well past our peak. And, for example, some of our resources are far more expensive to extract than the final product would be worth. The global oil market determines international politics, to say the least.

As for lifestyle changes, I would be all for being less car-dependent. Here in the big city, people could easily reduce car use by 1/3 if they had a mind to, but most prefer the car to stretching their legs a bit.

Also, I think straw-bale construction and energy-efficient remodeling are worth looking into. I would think FReepers would admire “off the grid” living.


20 posted on 01/16/2008 4:06:21 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Psalm 27)
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