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TPM-Turnout Reportedly Low Across Michigan (It's Snowing)
TPM Election Central ^ | 1-15-08 | Eric Kleefield

Posted on 01/15/2008 11:31:48 AM PST by tcrlaf

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From what I've been reading, this could have a huge effect on local races...

That said... Since it's a Hillary Sweep, who wants to bet that ALL 60 of Michigan's Delegates get seated at the Dem Convention now?

1 posted on 01/15/2008 11:31:49 AM PST by tcrlaf
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good, maybe the democrats who were going to vote for McCain will lose interest and we can finally have a GOP primary with actual GOPers.


2 posted on 01/15/2008 11:45:30 AM PST by bpjam (I'll crawl over broken glass for anybody but McCain (or the Huck))
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To: tcrlaf

This is good news for Romney. McCain needs the independents and Dems to crossover to win. Those type of votes are less reliable and be more likely to stay home due to poor weather.

By extension, this is good news for Fred Thompson as well. It stops McCain’s mo, and lays the table for an upset in SC.


3 posted on 01/15/2008 11:45:35 AM PST by bshomoic
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That said... Since it’s a Hillary Sweep, who wants to bet that ALL 60 of Michigan’s Delegates get seated at the Dem Convention now?

The news is already saying that the delegates will be given back (all of them). They were snickering that they thought Obama and Edwards made a mistake not adding their name and Hillary will get all 60.


4 posted on 01/15/2008 11:47:35 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Not necessarily. Romney’s base of support in Michigan is metro Detroit.


5 posted on 01/15/2008 11:49:21 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: tcrlaf

“there is “little to no waiting” at the polls in the Detroit metro area”

But, they will still report their returns last.


6 posted on 01/15/2008 11:49:37 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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Yeah, my guess is that the weather won’t hold up too many of the traditional Republicans.

Probably numerous people who wanted to vote before going to work, decided to go straight to work, instead.

The polls may be busier, this afternoon and evening.

Seniors may be slowed a bit, though (bad for Romney) but even then, the more committed seniors (favoring Romney and Huckabee more) should make it out.

Huckabee may just have a chance to gain some western Michigan delegates, too.

7 posted on 01/15/2008 11:49:50 AM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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“there is “little to no waiting” at the polls in the Detroit metro area”

So much for "disenfranchisement"....

8 posted on 01/15/2008 11:50:21 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: tcrlaf

I would’ve been tempted to play the “disenfranchised by your own party” card on the Democrat voters in Michigan. Still might not have gotten any new voters out, but it’d be worth a shot.


9 posted on 01/15/2008 11:52:17 AM PST by faloi
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To: unspun

isn’t this winner take all?


10 posted on 01/15/2008 11:53:11 AM PST by bshomoic
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That said... Since it’s a Hillary Sweep, who wants to bet that ALL 60 of Michigan’s Delegates get seated at the Dem Convention now?

MI has 60 delegates on the R side. 156 on the D side. Obama is today's big loser; he just got snookered out of Detroit's votes.

11 posted on 01/15/2008 12:09:55 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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Here is the info from Green Papers:

“Tuesday 15 January 2008: All 30 (pre-penalty 60) of Michigan’s delegates to the Republican National Convention are allocated to presidential contenders based on the results of the voting in today’s Michigan Presidential Primary.

15 (we are guessing) (pre-penalty 45) district delegates are to be allocated to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the state’s 15 congressional districts: each congressional district is assigned 1 (?) (pre-penalty 3) National Convention delegates and the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all of that district’s National Convention delegates.

15 (we are guessing) (pre-penalty 15 = 10 at-large, 2 bonus, plus 3 party leader National Convention Delegates are to be proportionally allocated to presidential contenders based on the statewide vote. The party leaders include the National Committeeman, the National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the Michigan’s Republican Party. These delegates will attend the convention as pledged delegates by virtue of their position.

A candidate must receive 15% of the statewide vote to be eligible to receive National Convention delegates. From those candidates meeting this threshold, proportionally allocate 15 (?) (pre-penalty 12) national convention delegates according to the statewide vote. Round factions to the nearest whole number (below 0.5 are rounded down, 0.5 and above are rounded up). If the end result is less than 15 (?) (pre-penalty 12) delegates, allocate 1 additional delegate to the candidate receiving the most votes statewide. If the end result is more than 15 (?) (pre-penalty 12) delegates, subtract 1 delegate from the candidate receiving the fewest votes statewide.

The individual National Convention Delegates and Alternates are selected during the Friday 15 February 2008 Congressional District Caucuses.”


12 posted on 01/15/2008 12:13:01 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: tcrlaf
LOW TURNOUT=McLAME's DEMOCRAT JUGGERNAUT FAILS!

At least I hope so.

13 posted on 01/15/2008 12:22:05 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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156 on the D side.

Holy crap!!! The Clinton’s are something else!!!


14 posted on 01/15/2008 12:33:24 PM PST by napscoordinator
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The Michigan Dems. get 156 Delegates to the DNC convention.
The reason they get so many more than the Republicans is DNC internal process.I do not know if there is a formlua or not with the DNC.

The Michigan Republican Party process is 45 Regular Delegates 3 per congressional district.
10 At-Large Statewide Delegates.
2 “bonus” At-Large Statewide Delegates because we have the majority in congressional delegation and the state senate.
3 Super Delegates, State Chair, National Committeeman and National Committeewoman.

Total: 60 Delegates

15 posted on 01/15/2008 12:38:03 PM PST by hildy123 (Bring back Patton)
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To: tcrlaf

Any WIN for Republicans will be glossed over like WY and everymedia outlet will move to next state.


16 posted on 01/15/2008 1:22:34 PM PST by edcoil
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To: Norman Bates

We need good turnout in the Detroit suburbs for Mitt.

That said, Romney is reported to have stashed a ton of absentee votes — already in the bank.


17 posted on 01/15/2008 1:25:41 PM PST by mwl1
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It looks like Romney will take his native state. Heavy snow around Grand Rapids will hurt Huckabee, as this area is the Michigan’s Bible Belt. It looks like Romney, McCain, Huckabee in that order. Paul may get a fourth place showing, as his followers appear more dedicated than others.
18 posted on 01/15/2008 1:30:34 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: tcrlaf

Low turnouts favor conservatives.


19 posted on 01/15/2008 1:31:31 PM PST by Scarchin (Romney/Thompson 2008)
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To: Wallace T.

I just checked weather conditions in Grand Rapids, Ann Arbor, Bay City and Detroit — cloudy all, not snowing.

Perhaps it snowed earlier in the day or last night.


20 posted on 01/15/2008 1:31:58 PM PST by mwl1
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