[Jaysun]

Well I don’t know how many have heard of ‘CARNIVORE’ but I’m not one of them. That further proves my point. And the Patriot Act has really proved to be a civil liberties nightmare, right? No. It hasn’t. Out of more than 300 million people not one has come forth with a violation of civil liberties. I remember the angst over the libraries deal. It turned out to be nonsense.

[JOAT]

Well I don’t know how many have heard of ‘CARNIVORE’ but I’m not one of them. That further proves my point.

A web search cures that. Carnivore

BTW, just because you haven't heard about it, doesn't 'prove' anything.