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1 posted on 01/14/2008 10:07:21 AM PST by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke

Planned Parenthood is merely one head of the Zero Population Growth hydra. ZPG is beinhg resisted by Republicans and supported by Democrats and this is the entire foundation of the difference between the Parties such as it is.


2 posted on 01/14/2008 10:09:53 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: pgyanke

I do not agree with their methods, if a company ceases to donate to PP then they should be removed from the list.


3 posted on 01/14/2008 10:14:39 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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So will LDI do penance for bearing false witness?


7 posted on 01/14/2008 10:31:21 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: pgyanke

Thanks. The policy of demanding penance is self-defeating, as you point out.


8 posted on 01/14/2008 10:54:44 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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I think LDI is wrong. The Catholic League is sometimes blamed for being too harsh, but all you have to do is write and say you’re sorry and you won’t do it again, and you’re off their list.

That’s clearly more productive. Why would a corporation stop funding Planned Parenthood, and risk offending the leftists, if they didn’t even get credit for amending their ways?

LDI is being very stupid about this. You need to be polite when people do the right thing, whatever their reason might be. Otherwise people will throw up their hands and stopp paying attention to you.


9 posted on 01/14/2008 10:56:57 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I’m not connected with LDI, but I can understand their reasoning. You have to understand what other companies have done when confronted with boycotts like this. They claim they have stopped giving to PP yet funnel the money through foundations and other third parties that then give the money to PP for them.

Once I’m aware a company has given to PP, they’re on my blacklist and they never go off. This is my personal decision and not one I expect others to do. There are companies like General Mills I simply am never going to buy from again. Sometimes, that means giving up some things I really like but I feel I must do that as a matter of conscience.

I understand and respect your viewpoint. I’m just trying to explain what may be behind theirs.


10 posted on 01/14/2008 11:02:04 AM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: pgyanke

Sounds like they are demanding confession more than pennance. In any event, I think turning off the faucet should be enough to get one off the list.


12 posted on 01/14/2008 11:48:37 AM PST by joebuck
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To: pgyanke; ThisLittleLightofMine; Larry Lucido; Cicero; joebuck; RedRover
Well, I decided to check on the veracity of your opinions based upon calling someone who I thought might be in the know...and it turns out you're all wrong for dissing LDI...[to the point where you each need to confess & do penance :) ]

According to my source, there's a few things you're not aware of...

(1) Apparently the key reason why LDI started addressing a corporation's future commitment to stay away from Planned Parenthood had to do with a few sneaky corporations. Let's take your example, Pgyanke re: an '04 contribution; let's say your company was on the "sly" in trying to avoid LDI's detection. Under the old way LDI did this once upon a time, apparently a company could give in '04 & then when contacted by customers, could say..."Well, we really don't know why LDI is still pestering us. See, we didn't give to PP last year in '05; the '06 list of recipients excludes PP; and we have no plans of giving to PP in '07." Then comes 2008 & all of a sudden the corporation is giving to PP again. Apparently, what a few companies were doing is that they were bunching their donations to PP every 4 or 5 years or so...Effectively giving the same amount, but stagnating the gifts. I mean, think of it: Over a decade, a Corporation could give the same amount it planned on giving all along...But if corporations were only "dinged" for the year following their grant, then a corporation which gave to PP every 5 years would only be held accountable 20% of the time.

(2) My source wasn't sure of this, but thought that this corporate "probation" period won't be forever. For example, they may come off the list if their track record is clean for 5 (or so) years. (Hey, that's what "probation" is all about)

14 posted on 01/14/2008 12:44:29 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: pgyanke

I think if they succeeded in getting someone to cut off donations, they should thank them, declare victory and leave them alone.


16 posted on 01/14/2008 12:56:16 PM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


26 posted on 01/15/2008 4:15:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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