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EXCLUSIVE: New York Times ‘Killer Vet’ Story Exposed as Erroneous by Pro-Troop Group
Move America Forward ^ | 01/14/2008 | Melanie Morgan - Move America Forward

Posted on 01/14/2008 4:15:04 AM PST by Impeach98

January 14, 2008 – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Mary Pearson: (916) 441–6197 or Email: mary@moveamericaforward.org

EXCLUSIVE:

New York Times ‘Killer Vet’ Story
Exposed as Erroneous by Pro-Troop Group

SACRAMENTO- Move America Forward (website: www.MoveAmericaForward.org), the nation’s largest grassroots pro-troop organization, today announced that after vetting the numbers cited by The New York Times in their Sunday, January 13, 2008 story, “Across America, Deadly Echoes of Foreign Battles,” it became clear that the Times had engaged in demonstrably erroneous and false reporting.

It took seven New York Times researchers to find 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in the United States, or were charged with one, upon returning home to this country.

The Times made the false conclusion that: “Taken together, they paint the patchwork of a quiet phenomenon, tracing a cross-country trail of death and heartbreak.”

The Times documentation of 121 potential killings out of more than 1.5 million veterans of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) and Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), divided by 6 years of conflict results in a murder rate of just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 veterans per year.***

That murder rate is far lower than the murder rate for the general population, demonstrating that the experiences of military service – including having served in Iraq and Afghanistan – actually made it less likely for returning veterans to commit murder once they returned home, than the general population.

Given a census-estimated population of the United States of 300,000,000 persons in this country as of October 2006, and FBI-compiled statistics of 17,399 homicide offenders for 2006, the murder rate of the general population was 5.80 offenders per 100,000 on average – and a rate of approximately 7.67 per 100,000 for men.

Since all but one of the veterans cited by the Times who committed a killing in the U.S. was male, the comparable rate is approximately 7.67 incidents of murder per 100,000 people among the general male population, compared to just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans (of both genders).

“It’s obvious that the New York Times has an agenda of undermining the missions of our troops in the War on Terror, so much so that they are willing to resort to demonstrably false statistics to support their anti-troop bias,” said Melanie Morgan, Chairman of Move America Forward.

“The slander of our troops and veterans by the New York Times is unfortunately all too familiar. We heard this kind of nonsense about our returning veterans from Vietnam. It’s the same insult, different war.

“Perhaps the shameful staff of The New York Times has run out of war-time secrets to publish for America’s enemies to read, because now they’ve resorted to an all-out smear campaign of America’s finest men and women, who have served this country bravely and with distinction,” Morgan said.

In place of hard data to support their premise, The New York Times was instead forced to devote almost the entire portion of 6,321 word hit-piece to anecdotes of wrongdoing by individual veterans.

The New York Times even went so far as to trace back the phenomenon of murderous veterans to Greek mythology to back up their assertions of their report.

“The real mythology is the reporting by The New York Times,” Move America Forward’s Melanie Morgan concluded.

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NOTE TO REPORTERS/BLOGGERS: Melanie Morgan and a delegation of staffers from Move America Forward have just returned from a 10-day trip interviewing U.S. troops in Iraq and Kuwait.

To schedule an interview with Melanie Morgan or the other members who traveled to Kuwait and Iraq including: Gold Star Mom Debbie Lee (mother of first Navy Seal killed in Iraq), MAF Communications Director, Danny Gonzalez, and MAF Deputy Executive Director, Mary Pearson, contact Ryan Gill of Move America Forward at: (916) 441-6197 or via email at: mary@MoveAmericaForward.org

>> You can link to this report, which is published at the Move America Forward website, at this location: http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/MAFNews

*** Note that the central statistical measure is how many instances of alleged killings take place per 100,000 Iraq/Afghanistan war veterans who returned home. The New York Times might argue that our statistics are incorrect since the 1.5+ million Iraq/Afghanistan veterans have not been home during the entire 6 years of the war (especially since in the early onset of Operation Enduring Freedom troops were just arriving into the war zone).

However, Salon.com reports that as of January 31, 2005 there were 1,048,884 Americans who had fought in Iraq or Afghanistan. One can then calculate statistics from that point onward. Let’s give the New York Times the leeway of saying their alleged 121 incidents of killings by veterans occured during just the three years that elapsed since that time to the present. The murder rate per 100,000 people would still be approximately 3.5 incidents of murder per 100,000 returning Iraq/Afghanistan veterans.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; dbm; iraq; mediabias; medialies; moveamericaforward; newyorktimes; oefveterans; oifveterans; troops; veterans
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To: CalvaryJohn
The Slimes strikes again. I knew it when I saw the headline yesterday. The truth completely contradicts the Old Gray Whore’s take on this. Hey Pinch, you’re sinking your ship, you schmuck!

Do you suppose the underlying idea behind this story is to keep guns and gun control in the news as often as possible while the Supreme Court is mulling over their 2nd amendment decision that will be forthcoming?

61 posted on 01/14/2008 7:14:45 AM PST by capt. norm (Those who think logically provide a nice contrast to the real world.)
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To: IrishMike
The election is gearing up, and the NYT’s, like the entire MSM, want Democrats in power, that’s why. Expect many stories about how the war is bad, the economy is tanking, Katrina evacuees are still suffering, etc., ad nauseum.
62 posted on 01/14/2008 8:24:01 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Impeach98

I am not even gonna tell ya what I think about the NYT. My blood pressure would go sky high.


63 posted on 01/14/2008 8:25:13 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Impeach98
It took seven New York Times researchers to find 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan

When will the NYT put seven researchers to work counting the deaths and crimes committed by illegal aliens here in America?

64 posted on 01/14/2008 8:26:25 AM PST by RJL
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To: Impeach98

BUMP


65 posted on 01/14/2008 8:42:54 AM PST by kitkat
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To: Impeach98

These socialist are the same ones that will mention that a murder, criminal, or pervert was a Viet Nam veteran 30 years after the fact, but will not identify a illegal alien, Mexican, or Muslim when they commit similar crimes.


66 posted on 01/14/2008 8:51:43 AM PST by Exton1
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To: Impeach98
If the Times really wants to do a numbers story how about listing all the crimes and the percentages of them committed by Illegal Immigrants?? THAT is a story damn it.
67 posted on 01/14/2008 8:57:07 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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To: thecabal

Significant Other Beaters, then or SOBs?


68 posted on 01/14/2008 9:02:49 AM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Impeach98
This American Military-hating fiction appeared on the FRONT PAGE of the America-hating Sacramento Bee.

As a Military Dad (one in Fallujah currently) I was more than highly offended.

There is another issue that I didn't see in Melanie's essay. Now maybe I missed it (I tend to scan issues that get my blood boiling) but isn't there another Huge False Premise of the article?

Since when did being ACCUSED if a crime equal a conviction for statistical purposes?

69 posted on 01/14/2008 9:16:23 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: upchuck

AMEN~ And husband kill more pregnant wives...sadly.


70 posted on 01/14/2008 9:57:42 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Gritty

What a display showing the patriotism of yesterday compared to today. Amazing picture. Thanks.


71 posted on 01/14/2008 9:58:46 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Impeach98
All the news 'erroneous and false reporting' fit to print (and quite a bit more that isn't)
72 posted on 01/14/2008 10:12:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Eastbound
It seems some in government have an uncommon fear of armed vets.

Something surprising for our vets must be coming down the pike.

Good thought. The 12th Circuit Court of Appeals has the "Blue Water Navy" 'Haas vs. DVA" decision coming up. Lots of interesting shenanigans going on behind the scenes lately.

Actually, I've been expecting the 'support the troops, not the war' mantra to start disintegrating soon. Vietnam Veterans know all about this.

Been there.

Done that.

Got the T-Shirt.

Feh!

73 posted on 01/14/2008 11:07:00 AM PST by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: RJL
When will the NYT put seven researchers to work counting the deaths and crimes committed by illegal aliens here in America?

Or even *ONE*, for that matter?

the infowarrior

74 posted on 01/14/2008 11:45:16 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Impeach98
New York Times = New York Traitors
75 posted on 01/14/2008 11:48:25 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: Into the Vortex
Good idea. Personally, I’d rather see a mass public hanging. With audio to hear what these damn traitors are whimpering when the hoods go over their heads.

"F-first A-ammendment!! F-freedom of-of the P-press!! Oh God! I just crapped my pants!!" (Excerpt from aforementioned audio...)

the infowarrior

76 posted on 01/14/2008 11:49:32 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Impeach98
Per the original story at the NYT, this is just the first of a series of hatchet jobs in a series call "War Torn: A series of articles and multimedia about veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who have committed killings, or been charged with them, after coming home."

Disgusting traitors. I saw this covered on Fox News, but didn't catch the audio. Hopefully they are shamed into a retraction and cancellation of the series, but I doubt it.

77 posted on 01/14/2008 12:54:32 PM PST by ETCM
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To: Impeach98

Since I can’t picket the NYT, a “Shame on You” postcard will have to suffice. And I hope it gets read all the way from FL to NY.


78 posted on 01/14/2008 1:00:43 PM PST by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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To: devolve; Impeach98; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; Seadog Bytes; FARS; abb; ...
Thank you Impeach!


79 posted on 01/14/2008 1:18:36 PM PST by potlatch
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
“It’s obvious that the New York Times has an agenda of undermining the missions of our troops in the War on Terror, so much so that they are willing to resort to demonstrably false statistics to support their anti-troop bias,” said Melanie Morgan, Chairman of Move America Forward.
80 posted on 01/14/2008 1:21:24 PM PST by nutmeg (Imagine Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama as Commander-in-Chief.... {{shudder}})
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