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To: ketsu

So the derivation of the word “fasces” is more important than the fact that both socialists and fascists (and “liberals” for that matter) aggressively confiscate private property and redistribute wealth? Yeah, right.

We can only hope that people like you, who bury their heads in the sand and deny the clear fact of Nazi socialism, are in the (small) minority. Such blatant denial of reality is no less foolish than denying the holocaust. If your ignorant views prevail, the stage is truly set for a resurgence of Nazism.

Let me just try one more time to hit you over the head with a clue bat. If this doesn’t do the trick, you are beyond any hope.


Why Are We Socialists?
by Joseph Goebbels

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of German freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the Fatherland!

The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of pay, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day-though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform-but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the Fatherland. The bourgeois does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeois and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

Socialism is possible only in a state that is united domestically and free internationally. The bourgeois and Marxism are responsible for failing to reach both goals, domestic unity and international freedom. No matter how national and social these two forces present themselves, they are the sworn enemies of a socialist national state.

We must therefore break both groups politically. The lines of German socialism are sharp, and our path is clear.

We are against the political bourgeois, and for genuine nationalism!

We are against Marxism, but for true socialism!

We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature!

We are for the National Socialist German Workers Party!

[End of Nazi rant in favor of socialism]


51 posted on 01/15/2008 12:39:11 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
So the derivation of the word “fasces” is more important than the fact that both socialists and fascists (and “liberals” for that matter) aggressively confiscate private property and redistribute wealth? Yeah, right.

We can only hope that people like you, who bury their heads in the sand and deny the clear fact of Nazi socialism, are in the (small) minority. Such blatant denial of reality is no less foolish than denying the holocaust. If your ignorant views prevail, the stage is truly set for a resurgence of Nazism.

Let me just try one more time to hit you over the head with a clue bat. If this doesn’t do the trick, you are beyond any hope.
Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber.

Apples(socialism) and Oranges(fascism) are both fruit(totalitarian ideologies). As fruit both of them have seeds(i.e. they confiscate private property). Does that mean an Apple is an Orange?

Not that I expect you to understand that analogy(any higher order thinking is obviously beyond you). But I'm sure you'll cut and paste more garbage that you don't understand and that will make you feel better.

I do have one question for you, though. Do you really not realize how ignorant you are? Are you really that stupid? Or are you desperately trying to "win" the argument with all this idiocy?
52 posted on 01/15/2008 10:19:08 PM PST by ketsu
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