Posted on 01/12/2008 10:24:01 AM PST by SamAdams76
Try post 81 (should’ve included you on the link).
Before the Global Warming Idiots started preaching their new religion, back in the dark old ages when I was in college, it was common knowledge that we were in an interglacial period and that we were approaching the end of that interglacial warming period.
It might not happen now, it might not happen in the next 1,000 years, but the glaciers will very soon return (in geological terms).
Now Sam McGee was from Tennessee, where the cotton blooms and blows
Why he left his home in the South to roam 'round the poles, God only knows.
He was always cold but the lure of gold seemed to hold him like a spell
Though he'd often say in his homespun way, he'd sooner live in hell...
Sometimes a picture is worth 10,000 words. That is one of them.
This guy has NO credibility. This has been noted on other science websites.
Changes are occurring in the Sun, but this theory should be thrown out since it is not produced by a person with any background in the solar sciences.
There are other ones produced by actual solar scientists that predict a slow-down in the activity of the Sun but those predictions are for Solar Cycle 25 (which should start in about 12 years since Solar Cycle 24 is just starting to ramp up now.)
Xcamel: We should add it to your list of references.
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He is claiming (predicting rather) that cycle 25 will be lower than solar cycle 24, which is already very, very late in starting.
Cycle 24 had it first opposite sphere sunspot in December 2007, despite earlier predictions that it should have begun back in late July or Aug.
I presume that INCREASING CARBON EMISSIONS will be the prescription?
That only a new tax can save us.
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Is invalid science still science? If so, then was it science that told us the world was flat, and bleeding would cure the plague, and malaria was caused by "bad vapors"?
If it isn't true or valid, it just isn't science. AGW is an unfounded and unproven theory. Science requires the proof of a theory, not just the development of a theory.
Therefore, my original criticism remains. We are seeing an interesting dual standard in the debate. The pro-AGW factions are in fact asking the anti-AGW factions to prove a negative. The scientific burden of proof has always been to prove the theory. Forcing others to disprove an unfounded theory turns the entire scientific method on its head.
Northeast Winters Warming Fast
By MICHAEL HILL,AP
and they go on to tell how the winters have warmed since 1965 by 2.5 degrees and snowfall has decreased by 8.8 inches.
I wonder at their lack of embarrassment at such promotion of Algore’s scary agenda. It is shameful!
And how does one decide whether the science is true? By doing more science? So that original thing is not now "sciece", eh. Funny.
Science is never perfect. Only closer and closer aproximations of "truth". I think AGW is false. But telling me that I have some kind of "double standard" and claiming that work on AGW is not somehow "science" is not true.
He's just pointing out the pretty well documented effects of past Solar Minimums in relation to NASAs new projection. It isn't just his theory.
The new data he is presenting is from NASA.
The complexity accrues to the modelling of anything termed 'global'. The CO2 issue isn't that complex. From 0 up to a certain point, CO2 has an increasing effect as a greenhouse gas. After a certain point, and we are quite close to that point, it has minimal additional effect.
Here's a tutorial on the subject. Enjoy: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
No, he isn't claiming or predicting about solar cycle 25, he's reporting. The claim or prediction belongs to NASA. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10may_longrange.htm
If so, good for NASA. Last time I tried said link, it was dead. As for this guy, he’s out to make a quick buck.
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