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1 posted on 01/10/2008 4:38:58 AM PST by Stoat
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Well, in this day and age I have to side with the judge. If they allowed Bibles, next they’d have to allow Qurans to be distributed to the children.


2 posted on 01/10/2008 4:42:45 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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I don’t like the ACLU but shouldn’t those kids have a Bible given to them already by their parents from the time they were first able to read it?


3 posted on 01/10/2008 4:44:05 AM PST by Locomotive Breath
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Ping


4 posted on 01/10/2008 4:46:00 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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I’m assuming this is a public school. If so I’m surprised this practice lasted as long as it did. It just opens the door to every group under the sun insisting they have a right to pass out propaganda to children...the Koran, the book of Scientology, the Gorean Global Warming Bible... where would it end? Better to allow churches to distribute Bibles OUTSIDE of the public classrooms.


5 posted on 01/10/2008 4:46:53 AM PST by rhombus
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Let the good folks distribute the Bibles either off school property or else door to door. I agree that id Bibles could be distributed then so could the Koran.


7 posted on 01/10/2008 4:48:53 AM PST by aroundabout
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Public Ed ping


9 posted on 01/10/2008 4:51:18 AM PST by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est.)
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To: Stoat

This is an easy fix... call them condoms.


10 posted on 01/10/2008 4:51:19 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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Public Education Ping

This list is for articles relating to public education.

Gabz, Amelia, and I have volunteered to take over the list so that Metmom can concentrate on home schooling issues.

If you want on or off this ping list, please Freepmail SoftballMominVA who is this month’s official keeper of the list

11 posted on 01/10/2008 4:51:31 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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Christ did have something to say about those who sit in the seat of Moses. The first human to hand out the LAW.


12 posted on 01/10/2008 4:52:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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The purpose of both practices "is the promotion of Christianity by distributing Bibles to elementary school students," Perry wrote. "The policy has the principle or primary effect of advancing religion by conveying a message of endorsement to elementary school children."

So what? Obviously, this judge has never bothered to read Amendment I. Again,

Congress

shall pass no law . . .

No act of Congress here.

15 posted on 01/10/2008 4:53:34 AM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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of course they did, it interferes with teaching kids how to be homo’s


17 posted on 01/10/2008 4:55:40 AM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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Well, perhaps they should try to hand out Korans, then when that is allowed, sue for violation of 14th Amendment, and separation of church and state rules.


18 posted on 01/10/2008 4:55:44 AM PST by DaiHuy (I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American. (George Carlin)
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Watch the movie God’s Outlaw. William Tyndale printed and distributed Bibles in the English language in the 16th century and was burned at the stake.


21 posted on 01/10/2008 5:02:23 AM PST by Mercat
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They should just have a stack of Bibles, Korans, and any other religious book piled on a table and let the kids choose which ones they want. I imagine a few will take the others just because they are kids, but most will take a bible of course, and then there is no problem with the favoritism of one religion that the courts will object to.
23 posted on 01/10/2008 5:10:48 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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IMO, if the Gideon’s are OK, then the Quran can’t be far behind. Religious training belongs at home, not at school. And that applies to ANY religion.
It’s OK for the school to include educational units on the various religions of the world throughout history. That has an educational purpose, to the degree that religion has shaped societies, etc.
But, blatant attempts to sway and indoctrinate? Nope...


30 posted on 01/10/2008 5:33:36 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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The Gideons have done this forever. As a Gideon, the practice of distributing Pocket New Testaments which include Psalms and Proverbs in 5th grade classroms has gone on for many decades. One thing that is not included in the red school distribution NT’s which is in some of the other Gideon Pocket NT’s is the plan of salvation. That was excluded to help fend off charges of prosletyzing.

In certain schools where classroom distributions are not allowed sidewalk distributions are arranged where not only 5th graders but others as well are offered NT’s as the kids leave or enter school. I’ve talked to many who still have those NT’s after 30 or 40 years. Many had never read a Bible before and this little NT generated an interest which ultimatley resulted in Salvation.

The Gideons also distribute these in overseas classrooms which are much more receptive than American classrooms. This includes throughout South America, Africa, parts of Asia, Eastern Europe including Russia. Over 80% of the distributions take place outside the US where the NT’s often become a textbook used in the classroom (imagine that in the US). THey often want English NT’s instead of their native tongue as it’s used as an English Primer.

The Gideons have distributed well over 1 billion bibles worldwide and have had a dramatic impact on the spread of the Gospel.


32 posted on 01/10/2008 5:37:05 AM PST by bereanway (Hunter in '08)
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This is becoming a fairly high volume list.
45 posted on 01/10/2008 6:25:56 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Sure is a far cry from the great days of our country where school opened with Bible reading and prayer every day.


46 posted on 01/10/2008 6:29:47 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I lived in St. Louis during my 4-7th grade years and remember the Gideons coming and distributing the New Testament pocket books. (We also had a moment of prayer at the beginning of the school year during those years.) What I don’t recall is whether the Gideons proselytized (sp?) at the time of the distribution. I also don’t recall whether the Plan of Salvation was included.

To avoid the appearance of religious bias maybe they should have a table where books, including the Koran, be kept and students could take one or all as they saw fit.


50 posted on 01/10/2008 6:35:05 AM PST by melissa_in_ga (Duncan Hunter for President 2008)
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Can someone explain to me by what legal basis a Federal judge has jurisdiction over a state school over matters of religious expression? Has Congress passed a law? Has the 8th Circuit ever heard of the 10th Amendment?


67 posted on 01/10/2008 7:30:45 AM PST by montag813
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