Posted on 01/10/2008 4:38:55 AM PST by Stoat
ST. LOUIS — A rural school district's long-standing practice of allowing the distribution of Bibles to grade school students is unconstitutional, a federal judge has ruled.
An attorney for the southeastern Missouri school district said Wednesday he will appeal the judge's injunction against the practice.
For more than three decades, the South Iron School District in Annapolis, 120 miles southwest of St. Louis in the heart of the Bible Belt, allowed representatives of Gideons International to give away Bibles in fifth-grade classrooms.
The American Civil Liberties Union filed suit two years ago on behalf of four sets of parents. In August, a three-judge panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a temporary injunction against the practice.
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Pretty much already mandatory in all public schools nowadays.
It will NEVER happen. You're living in a dream world. I'm as in favor of private schools and home-schooling as it gets, but to think you will ever eliminate the mouth of the National Education Association from the government tax tit is wishful thinking of the worst sort.
Unfortunately, they're right and you're not. The Mormons do NOT believe in the Trinitarian God-head, which is a central tenet of Christianity.
I don’t give a rats butt... why do you?
Because I have this "thing" for the truth. It gets me in trouble a lot, because most folks would rather live in their dream world than in the real one.
Very noble. Now climb down of your rightness and let's review what we were talking about.
1) I was discussing with someone else distributing Bibles in school and I was making a point about people who have to insist on being right so I wrote: However, that being said, after hearing lots and lots of people on this very site remind me again and again and again that Mormans are a cult and aren’t really Christian, I know that some people are so blinded by their own “rightness” that it wouldn’t stop with just passing out Bibles or Korans to interested students.
And boom, just like a Pavlovian dog you chime in...making sure that everyone knows what is right and wrong and you even personalize it to point out that I am wrong about Mormons not being Christians. I never made that judgment. You assumed. I was speaking about people who insist they are right.
2)And what did you tell me? You told me about Trinitarian God head and "Christian tenets" when I wasn't even discussing that. Remember I only used the issue as an example to demonstrate how some people are so convinced of the "rightness" they will go further than they intended. Nice demonstration. Thank you.
3) But if we must discuss it, personally I'd think that anyone who was a Roman Catholic (which I'm not) would say that all Protestant religions are cults and not true Christians. They were there first after all and drew up the first "Christian tenets". And then if I were a Jew (which I'm not) I would say that all Christian religions are cults and not true Jews. They were there first after all and drew up the first "Jewish tenets".
Basic "Christian tenet" as you put it has been changing and evolving for just about 2008 years or so. Deciding who are pure enough and true enough to warrant a title, in my opinion, is a poor use of bandwidth on a Politically Conservative website. Try the theology department.
But you see, I "am" Roman Catholic, and don't believe the above for a minute.
And the Catholic Church only recognizes as valid baptisms only those done according to the Trinitarian formula---which criterion the Mormons don't meet (neither do Unitarians and a very few others). So by Catholic lights, no, Mormons are not Christians.
Picture Ronald Reagan smiling. “There you go again.”
God wrote a book. His Word- Old Testament & New Testament, comprise "The Bible". Many published versions of The Bible include additional content, perhaps a few pages for family genealogy, a concordance (index of words), some mideast maps, etc. An outline of the "Plan of Salvation" is one such addition. Nothing wrong with including such a section. It is not contrary to the Word of God. However... it is also not REQUIRED to be in each & every edition of The Bible published.
The 14th Amendment has been held by the Supreme Court (in a series of decisions going back to the 1920s) to require states to abide by the Bill of Rights (or at least most of it).
Actually, old buddy, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE THREAD, "YOU" are the one advocating censorship, and "I" am the one advocating an open marketplace of ideas. My post about Mormonism is simply pointing out WHY real Christians don't consider them to be such, which is simply a set of facts, with none of the "righteousness" you are imputing to them.
I've got no problems if said Mormons want to pass out the "Book of Mormon" on school grounds, as long as anybody else with a similar desire can do so.
Don’t you have someone else you can share your open market place of ideas with? School children might not be nearly as difficult as I am, eh?
Hey, you're the one pushing the thread. And you're not "difficult", just either uninformed or stupid. Because all the "bogeymen" you are positing are ALREADY HAPPENING "with" the blessing of the education hierarchy.
One of the first acts by the 1st Congress was to authorize and fund the printing of thousands of Bibles. But many judges today think they understand the 1st Amendment better.
You are still a newbie and on probation the first 90 days. You are not allowed to post comments that make sense. Please leave that to the more experienced. :)
Your wrong added to what is already wrong does not make right. Leave children in schools alone.
Funny how things are though, when my grandfatehr was in school, they used the Bible to learn to read! My, how times have changed...
Oh yeah, I remember praying in grade school at lunch time in St. Louis County School. Simple little prayer the teacher would pray.
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