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On Poll Results and the End of Conservatism (Vanity)
Kevmo ^ | January 9, 2008 | Kevmo

Posted on 01/10/2008 1:11:53 AM PST by Kevmo

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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Now I hear they won’t even give Hunter the debate tickets they promised, and he paid for by paying his money to get on the ballot.

We'd call that fraud in my neck of the woods.

61 posted on 01/10/2008 5:21:52 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ReignOfError
The people running the debate. I listed the contact information, or didn’t you get that far?
62 posted on 01/10/2008 5:22:42 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Russ

Huck is not my guy.

I think Huck is a conman, and disagree with most of his policies, and hate his record on fiscal issues.

However, unless he starts playing the “I am personally opposed to abortion, but...” or I see evidence that his prolife position is a lie,...

Yes, I will hold my nose and vote for a prolifer over a baby-killer. Absolutely.

A baby-killer can’t be trusted to uphold any part of the constitution.

A baby-killer will have no trouble lying, stealing, or committing any other crime against humanity.

Besides, using your own logic, we are supposed to vote for the Republican nominee, whether we agree with him on all the issues or not.


63 posted on 01/10/2008 5:27:02 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Now I hear they won’t even give Hunter the debate tickets they promised, and he paid for by paying his money to get on the ballot.
We’d call that fraud in my neck of the woods.”

I agree, and I would love to see him sue.


64 posted on 01/10/2008 5:29:12 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Hardastarboard
The candidates on both sides represent various degrees of socialist ideology, with a couple of obvious exceptions (Hunter and Thompson).

Every candidate in every country on Earth represents some degree of socialism. Are Hunter and Thompson campaigning on a promise to eliminate Social Security, Medicare and the Interstate Highway System?

65 posted on 01/10/2008 5:30:22 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ishabibble
The people running the debate. I listed the contact information, or didn’t you get that far?

Your first two contact are for the South Carolina Republican Party.

The parties choose their candidates, as I posted. Or didn't you get that far?

66 posted on 01/10/2008 5:36:29 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Duncan Lee Hunter, who would stomp any democrat in a free election...

I'm not so sure, but I certainly wish that it was so...

I really did not appreciate how distracted and weak the nation had become, BJ Clinton's two terms and the Gore/Bush fiasco in 2000 notwithstanding, until the 2006 midterm elections. I'm now of a mind that only a tremendous shock has any possibility of bringing the the country to its senses. Sadly, 911 was not enough.

The solid credentials of Hunter and Thompson have yet to make a dent in in the consciousness of a nation wrapped in a false sense of security that decades of relative luxury and the fumes of a once great supply of human energy and determination have created.

I would vote for Hunter or for Thompson in Nov., if one or the other should get the nomination; but I will be very surprised if that is the case. IMHO, hard times forge great nations, if the people have it in themselves to succeed. As I see it, things aren't yet bad enough for common sense to once again play a role in US politics.
67 posted on 01/10/2008 6:11:39 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: Kevmo
I'm with you Kev. In fact, on my local tv channel (NOT FNC!) they were also using In Trades in their political story (this is Hunter country!). I thought of you!

I got my ballot yesterday (mail in) so I had the privilege of voting for Duncan Hunter!

I just ignore all the talk, excluding him, and have even turned the tv off FNC. (nothing to gain by leaving it on Fox).

It's so disappointing to see how all the convervative things I relied on have now become Republican (without the conservatism) *sigh*

68 posted on 01/10/2008 6:31:55 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I won't stop supporting Hunter until he tells me to...GO HUNTER '08)
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To: Russ

Some of what you write sounds real pretty but I’m sorry there is just no daylight inbetween a candidate like McCain and Hillary!. Plus, he’s rather crazy so there no way I can vote for that “R”!


69 posted on 01/10/2008 6:36:49 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I won't stop supporting Hunter until he tells me to...GO HUNTER '08)
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To: Kevmo

” On the latest poll, “I’ll vote R regardless” is leading the pack. I call people who vote this way UIN republicans, because they’ll vote for anything with an R in front of it, regardless of what it means.”

Ummm, don’t you think you are exaggerating a bit.

If republicans elect a moderate instead of a conservative WTH do you expect us to do? Sit it out, and let a true blue liberal/socialist win???


70 posted on 01/10/2008 6:46:03 AM PST by Vanbasten
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To: Kevmo

The GOP polling was fine. It was the Hillary-stolen election results that differed from polling. You would have a better argument if you were talking about a Democrat candidate, not Hunter.


71 posted on 01/10/2008 6:48:05 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Yep.

Sitting the sideline is tantamount to saying like a child, “I didn’t get my way, so I don’t want to play”

Grow a set people...jesus.

You guys are starting to sound like the Paulistinians in other threads.


72 posted on 01/10/2008 6:52:44 AM PST by Vanbasten
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To: Russ; Jim Robinson

“Sorry, Jim, but I think the stakes are too high this time to afford daliances with third parties or sitting out the election. We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.”

Exactly how do you hold a GOP president accountable if your position is support the GOP regardless. Isn’t that a pretty toothless position. The same “The Survival Of The Republic” chant goes up every election cycle. In 2006 one of the bits of wisdom that was floating around was that if the Dems. took back congress they would immediately surrender in Iraq....the last time I checked even Murtha was admitting that the surge was working, so that didn’t really come to pass. The stakes in a national election are always high, but IMO complaining loudly that the GOP is going too far to the left, and then voting for the GOP right or wrong doesn’t exactly send a strong message....Reminds me of that old cliche about dad telling his bickering kids in the back seat that if they don’t quiet down he’ll turn this car around right now and go back home. Sorry, but that won’t work, or I should say it hasn’t worked yet, and at this point I’m not optimistic.


73 posted on 01/10/2008 7:06:07 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Vanbasten
Sitting the sideline is tantamount to saying like a child, “I didn’t get my way, so I don’t want to play”

I'm not sitting on the sidelines, I just voted for my candidate!

Grow a set people...jesus.

I'm not Jesus but I figure I basically do have a set as I just voted my conscience and NOT who Sean Hannity told me to vote for!

You guys are starting to sound like the Paulistinians in other threads.

WOW! So we don't vote who YOU want us to vote for so you call us Ron Paul supporters?

Grow up and quit the name calling. You're the one pitchin' a fit and calling names because we're not voting for your guy.

74 posted on 01/10/2008 7:16:43 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I won't stop supporting Hunter until he tells me to...GO HUNTER '08)
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To: CAluvdubya

“I’m not sitting on the sidelines, I just voted for my candidate!”

I was speaking of the general election.

“I’m not Jesus but I figure I basically do have a set as I just voted my conscience and NOT who Sean Hannity told me to vote for!”

Wow, and you were griping about my insults...who the hell is Hannity’s candidate anyway, Guiliani?

” WOW! So we don’t vote who YOU want us to vote for so you call us Ron Paul supporters?

Grow up and quit the name calling. You’re the one pitchin’ a fit and calling names because we’re not voting for your guy.”

Did I tell you who do vote for????? Vote for whoever the hell you want to vote for. Just don’t sit out the general, because you didn’t get your way.


75 posted on 01/10/2008 7:31:29 AM PST by Vanbasten
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To: Kevmo
Thank you for having the intestinal fortitude to post this great vanity. You have exposed many of the problems with this election cycle.

Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP

To leave out ANY candidate when the primaries are only beginning is an abomination. If the S.C. GOP were worth a damn, they would withdraw their sponsorship from this love fest the way the N.H. GOP did Sunday night.

Actually, if ANY of these vaunted republican candidates had a spine, THEY would withdraw from participating unless they were ALL included. None of them, to my knowledge, have made a peep in regard to this outrage, save DENNIS KUCINICH. Now that is pathetic!

What would happen if they would all simply refuse to attend unless they were all included? It could be used as an example of their desire to UNITE not DIVIDE the party. Instead, they are perfectly happy to be in the limelight, for however long it lasts and to hell with the party, a fair election process or the country.

Fact of the matter is, every republican candidate should have been making noise about these phony debates all along, especially after the CNN debacle.

I don’t see how anyone can defend this action when it affects a conservative.

Nor can I!

This is a conservative forum, not a GOP one.

No comment.....

Everyone on FR, anyone that calls themselves a conservative or an American should be outraged.

The lack thereof is most telling!

76 posted on 01/10/2008 8:09:13 AM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Russ
I like the wide range of choices in candidates we have this year. Every faction of the party is represented which leads to healthy debate

Yes, it is great that every faction, from the socialist to the most conservative is represented, but it is not leading to a "healthy debate" when the most conservative candidate is left out.

The primary objective in this election, I believe, is to keep the radical wing of the Democrat Party ... from gaining control of the White House and doing harm to our country through their social and economic experimentation.

But it is perfectly acceptable to allow the radical wing of the republican party to do harm to our country through their social and economic experimentation?

77 posted on 01/10/2008 8:19:01 AM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Russ

If we refuse to vote for any candidate who does not meet our conservative litmus test then we should get out and either reregister as an Independent or form a “Conservative Party”.
***Did you even read the part about how this is a conservative website and not a GOP one?


78 posted on 01/10/2008 8:21:18 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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To: Russ

If Fred Thompson, for instance, would be nominated would we conservatives appreciate it if the moderate and liberal wing would sit out the election because their candidate didn’t win?
***Why should I address your hypotheticals if you do not address mine?


79 posted on 01/10/2008 8:22:21 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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To: Russ

Every faction of the party is represented which leads to healthy debate
***The MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE has been shut out of HEALTHY DEBATE! Didn’t you even read what I posted?

The primary objective in this election, I believe, is to keep the radical wing of the Democrat Party (is there any other?) from gaining control of the White House
***This is a conservative website, so our primary objective is to support the most conservative candidate. If there’s an objective to an election, that means there’s process in place, and that process is BROKEN if it IGNORES VOTES in favor of POLLS that were PROVEN WRONG in the FIRST PASS.

and doing harm to our country through their social and economic experimentation. To do this we must support and vote for the candidate chosen by our party no matter whether we are 100% behind them or 30%.
***You are so far off, I wonder why you’re even posting here on Free Republic.

It is dangerous and even fool-hardy to do otherwise.
***Spout your garbage on some GOP website. This is a conservative website.


80 posted on 01/10/2008 8:26:07 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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