Posted on 01/10/2008 1:11:53 AM PST by Kevmo
On that we can agree, I assure you.
ANY RIGHT MINDED CONSERVATIVE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS AND RESIST ACCORDINGLY!
***You’re an idiot. You’re posting directly in opposition to what the conservative founder of this website says, trying to redefine conservatism in your compromising, RINO image. That makes you someone with bad manners as well.
Accordingly doesn’t mean sitting out any election.
***Straw argument. Who’s talking about sitting it out? We’re talking about a straight 100% Republican ticket, so you should be happy. But on the top spot, the republican will be a writein if a RINO is nominated. In the battle of lost support, who wins? RINOs trying to browbeat socons into betraying their principles, or Socons trying to point out to RINOs that they said they’d vote for the guy anyways.
And may you find your own path as well. On your own thread.
if I wasn’t a bleeping coward, then I’d choose that too.
***There’s the problem right there.
On that, I absolutely agree. If we defeat the Left in this nation, then the Islamo-Fascists are a walk in the park. If the Left defeats us, the Left will then surrender to the ragheads, without even token resistance.
***You don’t get it. The enemies of conservatism are right here in our own party, the RINOs.
It certainly is! Do you think Congressman Hunter could ask the GOP for his $10k to be returned, using the false advertising/lost leader rules?
Just a reminder for any late readers!
Do you think Congressman Hunter could ask the GOP for his $10k to be returned, using the false advertising/lost leader rules?
***Maybe he’d pick up some press from it. But it has trouble written all over it.
Yep! What is worse, IMHO, is the GOP appears to be doing the same.
Did I get that right?
Sounds right to me!
Well.....if I have to be polite.....that could be a deal breaker. ;*)
What do you mean? Trouble with the GOP? It seems like theft to me.
Sniff....sniff....smells almost like a RICO suit.
Smells like Gramsci and Alinsky.
It just smells.
“Well.....if I have to be polite.....that could be a deal breaker. ;*)”
I hear you.
I’m going to call the National Republican Party and tell them to please use their influence to get the state GOP to include ALL of the candidates in the debates.
I haven’t called them in a couple of years, but the number then was: 202-863-8500.
No moron...simply calling something a ‘straw’ argument isn’t a mature response. But then again, I don’t think you really want to debate. Just bitch like 12 year old getting her first period.
You call me an idiot, and then say I have bad manners. Do you even know what manners are?
I never said anything about betraying principles. Preventing massive socialization of our economy betrays none of my principles.
If you want to live under the illusion that voting for a candidate that has no chance accomplishes something, feel free. Tell the smurphs I said, “hi”, over there in la la land.
No moron...simply calling something a ‘straw’ argument isn’t a mature response.
***I called you an idiot because you’re posting directly in opposition to what the conservative founder of this website says, trying to redefine conservatism in your compromising, RINO image. Not because of the straw argument. Do you even know what a straw argument is? Maturity? That’s freeping PROOF that you don’t know what a straw argument is.
You call me an idiot, and then say I have bad manners. Do you even know what manners are?
***Yes. Do you know what it is when you go onto a website with a stated purpose of X and then argue against that stated purpose of X, directly in contradiction to the owner of the website, posting it ON HIS WEBSITE? That is the Freeping DEFINITION of bad manners.
I never said anything about betraying principles.
***You don’t have to. It’s plainly obvious by reading your posts.
Preventing massive socialization of our economy betrays none of my principles.
***That’s because you don’t have any principles.
If you want to live under the illusion that voting for a candidate that has no chance accomplishes something, feel free. Tell the smurphs I said, “hi”, over there in la la land.
***This is the PRIMARIES, not the ELECTIION. We are in the process of SELECTING the candidate, not VOTING for him. You can live with your own delusions all you want, but browbeating millions of conservatives into betraying their principles to vote for a RINO is going to lose the next election, guaranteed. You know this is true, but you still persist with your opinion that your approach is the right way, because you are a partisan, not a conservative. Tell that to the RINOs over in the GOP/RINOland.
“***This is the PRIMARIES, not the ELECTIION. We are in the process of SELECTING the candidate, not VOTING for him.”
Hey dumbass. You’ve been corrected over and over by others, but I’ll do it again since you are slow. This is what you said.....
“On the latest poll, “I’ll vote R regardless” is leading the pack. I call people who vote this way UIN republicans, because they’ll vote for anything with an R in front of it, regardless of what it means.”
The poll is about THE GENERAL ELECTION. DO YOU COMPREHEND?
You insult people like me who spend money and time on true conservatives like Fred Thompson by calling me a RINO among other things. I haven’t given up on ANY primary, moron. You made a point about a poll, and I responded....
Now, take your prozac, call a friend if you don’t get what I am talking about, because I am done.
“I am a conservative who is a registered member of the Republican Party. As long as I am a member of that party I will vote for the candidate the party chooses to represent us in the general election. If we refuse to vote for any candidate who does not meet our conservative litmus test then we should get out and either reregister as an Independent or form a “Conservative Party”.
The Republican Party has always been made up of conservative, moderate, populist and liberal factions. The struggle for control by one group or another has been ongoing since the 1800’s. In fact, I like the wide range of choices in candidates we have this year. Every faction of the party is represented which leads to healthy debate which is alot more than can be said for the cookie-cutter candidates put up by the Democrats.
If Fred Thompson, for instance, would be nominated would we conservatives appreciate it if the moderate and liberal wing would sit out the election because their candidate didn’t win? Would conservatives have been OK with the moderates snubbing Reagan in 1980 and voting for John Anderson? Hardly.
The primary objective in this election, I believe, is to keep the radical wing of the Democrat Party (is there any other?) from gaining control of the White House and doing harm to our country through their social and economic experimentation. To do this we must support and vote for the candidate chosen by our party no matter whether we are 100% behind them or 30%. It is dangerous and even fool-hardy to do otherwise.”
I noticed that first you referred to the General election. This is primary season.
Why focus on the General election when we do not even know who the players are? Why not focus on the primary and put the best conservative in? Do you think the liberal wing or moderate wing of this party has the best chance to win? If so, what is your rationale for this considering that the more conservative candidates are the ones who win the landslides?
“You know it’s not just how debate participants are chosen. It’s that the news media is in a sense running our lives by deciding what’s important and what’s not, by placing undo importance on polls (always, not just during elections), by the use of “pundits” whose vanities can make or break a candidate.
Last night, when asked about Fred Thompson in SC, Krauthammer declared he was “dead”. A week and a half before the primary, and you’ve made the decision for the voters of SC? I mean really, how dare you be so presumptuous as to decide he’s out? He came in second in Wyoming, 3rd in Iowa, but he’s “dead”?? But Guiliani is somehow viable only because of their precious polling nationally. I guess it doesn’t occur to them how much that hurts a campaign.
And I am sorry for the Duncan Hunter supporters because the media decided he wasn’t worth covering before the race even started.”
You bring up some very good points about the media trying to make our decisions for us.
I do think there is good news though. There have been 3 elections and 3 different first place winners. I see this as a sign that, while people are buying into the media talk some, they are not buying into it enough. If they were, Romney would probably have won Iowa and Wyoming. I think McCain would have won NH either way. SC will tell us a lot about what the GOP voters are really doing. If a 4th candidate takes 1st in SC we will have different winners in each of the first 4 states. I am not sure that has happened before, but I would take that as an indication that the people are not automatically buying what the LSM is selling.
Then I’ll say it again, because you are so slow: This is the PRIMARIES, not the ELECTIION. We are in the process of SELECTING the candidate, not VOTING for him.”
Free Republic has been inundated by RINOs who look to compromise DURING the PRIMARIES. It used to be a conservative site. But now Free Republic has followed the GOP and is filled with UIN Republicans like yourself.
I’m glad to see you’re done, infesting this thread like a pest. Take your own Prozac.
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