Posted on 01/09/2008 7:56:30 PM PST by fallingwater
In a recent analysis, "Was Barack Obama a Muslim?" I surveyed available evidence and found it suggests "Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father." In response, David Brock's organization, Media Matters for America (MMfA), which calls itself a "progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media," has criticized one of my sources of information.
(Excerpt) Read more at danielpipes.org ...
Looks like the Clinton slime machine is ratcheting it up another notch or two.
I don't think he is seen as an apostate - not in Indonesia, the country with the largest muslim population in the world:
Barack Obama and the Truth.Tracking Down Obama in Indonesia.link.
One thing for certain, you will NOT see Obama with his hand over his heart. All you will see is his CROTCH SALUTE!
One must ask, Is Obama simply following this advice from "Ask the Imam?"
Question: Could we sing national anthem and say the plegde of allegience to the secular state while the flag is being raised up?
Answer: As Muslims, our pledge of allegiance is only to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). However, as Muslims in a non-Muslim state, we are obliged to follow the laws of the country which are not contrary to Shariah.
The allegiance of pledge by singing the national anthem of a secular state which has many un-Islamic laws, for example, legalising homosexuality, lesbianism, pornography, etc. is not permissible.
And Allah Taãla Knows Best. Was salaam Mufti Ebrahim Desai
The trash is already coming from the most secret hidden place in The Hillary Clinton campaign, and they will make it look like Republicans are making an issue of it.
The worst thing I can say about Obama is he’s a card-carrying Democrat. By definition that means he believes in Al Gore’s global warming hoax, amnesty for illegal aliens, and having unelected judges make laws. However, Obama is the best person the insane Democrats have.
Read my comments. The information I am posting re Obama is out there for anyone to find. And btw, I am an Australian and couldn’t be FURTHER REMOVED FROM THE CLINTON SLIME MACHINE than I am...
Btw, the following was compiled by FREEPER Beckwith:
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
Gee, no sh . . . . . . kidding!!!
Sad to say, too many voters won’t respond to this. If you want to discredit Obama, you need to start making comparisons to one Jimmuh Carter. When he ran for president, as incompetent as he was, Carter had at least been a state governor. Obama can’t even claim that.
But look at the way he DOES compare to Carter:
1. Carter claimed to be a Washington outsider.
2. Obama claims he is a Washington outsider.
3. Carter claimed that he could change the way business gets done in Washington.
4. Obama says he will be the instrument of (all together now) “C-H-A-N-G-E”.
5. Other than his record as a mediocre governor (a one-termer at that, I believe!), Carter had no major political experience and brought nothing but Rosalyn, Amy, and his brother Billy to the WH.
6. Obama’s claim to fame appears to be a record in the Illinois state house that rivals John Kerry’s in the U.S. Senate (although without Kerry’s longevity), and 2 years in the US senate. Not exactly a glowing resume for a president.
(For those from Rio Linda, Kerry’s biggest accomplishment in the US Senate has been to keep dust from collecting on his senate seat and marrying wealthy widows)
We’ve had one Carter, and we don’t need a sequel!!
So...my occasional chanting to relax makes me a Buddhist?
No picture of Captain Obvious yet!?
Yeah...but check out the "church" he attends now....
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
I stopped reading right there. Not a single person has ever been born a Muslim. Or a Christian for that matter. Religion is something you choose to believe in, not something in your DNA.
It is not a minor issue; Muslims are commanded to kill him. It is one of the clearer laws of sharia. They just killed a Christian woman in Egypt because her father put himself down as Muslim when he was young in order to get a job. The woman was born and raised a Christian. When she listed herself as Christian on a marriage application, they saw that her father was Muslim (if only for a few days), and decided she was an apostate.
great post, seriously.
And part of my point is that even if he never really embraced Islam, he will still be viewed as an Apostate to the 1.4 Billion muslims in the world. So the argument of rather he really was/is a muslim or not is not as critical as the fact that electing him would put the US president square in the sights of 1.4 Billion people obligated to kill him as an offense to Islam. So much for the supposed care dems have for uniting not dividing the world.
Attacking Obama? Oh please...
I think many are simply missing the point. I agree with what you have to say, what disturbs many is not that he was once a practicing Muslim, but that he has gone out of his way (often aided by the MSM) to either deny it or simply hide the fact.
I once posted here at FR that what disturbed me about Clinton wasn't so much the fact that he had sex with once of his staff, but of the fact that he lied about it and then tried to cover it up.
My comments are here
Been busy at work so have been on and off periodically, but in my spare time I've been tracking down a few more leads in Indonesia.
Hope to have more up soon on Obama's "mengaji" classes.
It would seem that there might be some actual truth to the madrassa rumours. He didn't exactly attend a madrassa but he did attend Quranic recitation courses - and his father and mother were more devout Muslims that many are claiming.
I didn't SAY that, note the inverted commas, I was quoting the freeper to whom my comment was addressed.
I have also made the point on several threads that Obama is American in name only, at his roots he remains a tribal KENYAN - and what you have written about his 'church' confirms that.
If Obama gets the nod, God Forbid, if this is true, then who will be his VP, ie the Next President?
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