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Metal thieves converge on Patterson farms
California Farm Bureau Federation ^ | January 9, 2008 | By Christine Souza

Posted on 01/09/2008 7:35:21 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin

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Another nail in the coffin of family farms
1 posted on 01/09/2008 7:35:24 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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Who *buys* this stuff? Can’t they do like a background check or something? I’m kind of not being sarcastic.


2 posted on 01/09/2008 7:37:44 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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Any scrap yard will take whatever copper or brass or whatever you have.

If someone thinks that what they have might be identifiable, just break it up, melt it, or crush it.

3 posted on 01/09/2008 7:40:41 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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Scrap dealers know exactly where the stuff comes from. They don’t care.


4 posted on 01/09/2008 7:43:53 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: DeaconBenjamin
A statewide legislative solution by Assemblymember Tom Berryhill, R-Modesto, and sponsored by CFBF, failed last year after many hostile amendments were added to the bill, resulting in legislation that would have pre-empted all county ordinances and promoted metal theft by allowing cash payments to frequent sellers.

I'm only guessing, but I'd guess that this is illegals doing the jobs Americans won't do, and Democrats helping them out in the legislature.

5 posted on 01/09/2008 7:43:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Probably right. It is a big business in Mexico. Happens frequently.


6 posted on 01/09/2008 7:46:56 PM PST by bajabaja
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Solving the metal theft problem in the state, Rakoncza said, lies with local ordinances and ultimately statewide legislation.


Like maybe making theft illegal or something?


7 posted on 01/09/2008 7:47:36 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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The problem is rampant around here too. Two of my husband's churches had their air conditioning units destroyed. At our religious campground the thieves actually pulled down the live electric wires and made off with them. One thief was not so fortunate though. He attemped to pull down a live wire in a farmer's field, and they found his smoking body the next day.

After the air conditioners were ripped off, the churches put in new ones and anchored 2/6 poles around them. Thieves could probably pull them up with a vehicle, but we are hoping that the extra work involved will deter them.

8 posted on 01/09/2008 7:49:06 PM PST by WVNan
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The problem has been so bad in Patterson that some of the farmers banded together to hire a security guard to look out for suspicious activity.

“The security person was going around and watching things and apparently came across a vehicle that had some people in it. He asked them what they were doing and these people pulled a gun on him. He quit after that,” Santos said.


I’m guessing they went cheap when they hired the security guard...


9 posted on 01/09/2008 7:49:16 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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"I'm only guessing, but I'd guess that this is illegals doing the jobs Americans won't do, and Democrats helping them out in the legislature."

Illegals and every junkie in the hood........

10 posted on 01/09/2008 7:50:19 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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I will bet that in the 1880’s the citizens wouldn’t have put up with this stuff.


11 posted on 01/09/2008 7:52:12 PM PST by Parmy
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Solving the metal theft problem in the state, Rakoncza said, lies with local ordinances and ultimately statewide legislation.

Solving the metal theft problem lies with providing solid legal protection for property owners shooting on sight when they see someone unauthorized on their property. It's not saving the community of law abiding citizens any money when they arrest these criminals, provide them with public defenders, imprison them at $50,000 a year, hire parole officers to pretend to monitor them, and then repeat the process as soon as they re-offend, which will be quickly after they're let out of prison. I doubt most first-time convicts do any prison time at all.

12 posted on 01/09/2008 7:52:38 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Some do care, but I expect they’re being driven out of business by those who don’t, since the obviously stolen metal is sold to willing dealers at a significant discount.


13 posted on 01/09/2008 7:55:53 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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If a scrap yard gets the heads up on such things, they will keep an eye out for it. If they see someone comming in with a pickup load of scrap brass valves and they have been alerted, they are required to call authorities and report it as they can be hooked for recieving stolen goods and lose their business Lic. And you wouldnt believe how helpful scrap yards are on this.

Even if the brass is broken they can tell if its valves or whatever because there are parts in valves that ID the things as such. Most thiseves are way to lazy to melt things down as it would cost them more to do that than simply taking the stuff in as is. Stupid..it is costing them more going around getting this stuff than they are making...I.E. gas and etc. As to wire..lots of places require you to strip the wire and if you dont you get paid near nothing for it compared to stripping it and bringing in bare wire.

Its most likely locals doing this.


14 posted on 01/09/2008 7:55:58 PM PST by crz
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To: Theo

Same folks that steal mountain bikes & car stereo’s in the cities: those who choose to rip off goods they can anonymously liquidate so they con fund their next meth fix. Human parasites.


15 posted on 01/09/2008 7:59:23 PM PST by MonicaG ((Duncan Hunter))
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Its because of wartime demands for copper, any penny made before 1982 is actually worth more in its weight alone, its very bad in Hawaii where thieves strip out streetlight wiring and immediately after a new home is built they go in and strip out the copper plumping. here in Alaska I have seen first hand metal scrappers trying to con themselves into my property where I have tons and tons of cast aluminum frames from old diesel trucks, old boilers and spools of wire. There needs to be some tougher laws about where the metal comes from but yes most of the time the buyers could care less because they are making good profit.


16 posted on 01/09/2008 8:00:32 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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Coming to a third world country near you.
17 posted on 01/09/2008 8:13:13 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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I knew one who got rich with airline mechanics selling them exotic metals like titanium, but that was years ago. The common theft is copper.

Right now the price of copper is so high the problem is worse. It is not like aluminum with a common legitimate source like pop cans. Copper is usually electric wire, water or air conditioning pipe. There can be legitimate salvage but I don't buy that the dealers don't know when the same sellers keep coming around.

18 posted on 01/09/2008 8:19:25 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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Shoot on sight, for trespassing and grand theft. The same fate should await the taggers who spraypaint their words and symbols on items that don’t belong to them.


19 posted on 01/09/2008 8:35:37 PM PST by kerosene
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Illegals need the money. Employers aren’t hiring as many, any more.

Poor illegals! They just can’t get a break.


20 posted on 01/09/2008 9:36:33 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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