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Less Is More For Ford's New V-6 Engine [Federal Regs Kill the V-8]
Newhouse News ^ | 1/9/2008 | Robert Schoenberger

Posted on 01/09/2008 9:50:29 AM PST by Incorrigible

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Mazda uses the system in its Speed6. It gets 270 horsepower, 27 percent more than the V-6 Mazda 6 sedan and it costs nearly $7,000 more.

Very nice car but Mazda is discontinuing for 2008 due to lack of interest.

 

1 posted on 01/09/2008 9:50:31 AM PST by Incorrigible
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2 posted on 01/09/2008 9:52:34 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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They did this in 1976; Jimmah Carter era.

I think we had a Chevy Impala with 4 or 6 that produced something like 95hp.

What a P.O.S.


3 posted on 01/09/2008 9:53:31 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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I have a Sky Redline (at least for now).

The engine is amazing. 260HP and about the same torque out of a 2.0 liter four cylinder.

Its scary fast (of course it doesn’t weigh all that much either).


4 posted on 01/09/2008 9:54:40 AM PST by chrisser ("Europe has become a theme-park representation of its former self." - Chrisser)
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They can have my 400+ HP Z06 Corvette when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!


5 posted on 01/09/2008 9:55:01 AM PST by KenHorse (The Internet. Enabling the village idiot to become the global idiot with the click of the mouse)
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And the tree you wrap it around. :)


6 posted on 01/09/2008 9:58:09 AM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: Incorrigible

My contention with squeezing lots of HP out of little motors has always been durability. Let’s face it, the more stress you subject machines to, the quicker they wear out. The alternative is to use expensive alloys and polymers to resist the additional wear and tear. So far, to the best of my knowledge, the racing industry and high performance aftermarket autos are the only place these very pricy motors are used.

So, in 2010 when Ford wants me to by a 350 hp, F-150 with a V-6 in it, I will search around for the 300 hp V-8 and have confidence that I will still get 200,000+ miles out of it over 10 to 15 years.


7 posted on 01/09/2008 9:58:39 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
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Most “slashing” power is needed only in short bursts. Given the current state of the laws (yuck), the engine coupled with a fast response, “power bursting” technology will go a long way in the market. Currently there are not too many options:

turbo boost - usually a noticeable delay in the boost
battery assist - takes lots of batteries and adds considerable weight
ultra capacitor - new technology and still adds weight but not as much as battery assist
flywheel - old technology that could be improved but it too adds weight and can cause handling problems if not engineered properly.

Alternatively, you can reduce the mass of the vehicle. This will require expensive new materials and new designs that are not yet tested. These new designs may cause an increase in the number of highway deaths.

So, Congress either wants you to have less fun or is willing to sacrifice the lives of it’s citizens.


8 posted on 01/09/2008 9:58:43 AM PST by taxcontrol
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I have never been impressed with the Ford V8, having driven two vehicles with them. The third Ford I drove was a Mustang with a V6 that had better pick-up and responsiveness than both V8s. That’s more likely a weight issue. But then again, I drove the Lincoln LS with a 6 cylinder, also better than a V8.


9 posted on 01/09/2008 9:59:22 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: KenHorse

Don’t you mean if they can catch you and pry your foot off the gas pedal? ;-)

BTW, I’m invoking the picture rule. Let’s see that bad boy!


10 posted on 01/09/2008 9:59:29 AM PST by Hoffer Rand
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Turbo and super-charging are the way to go. They should have been producing them for the last 30 years in all vehicles.


11 posted on 01/09/2008 10:00:27 AM PST by subterfuge (1st choice: Hunter------2nd choice: Thompson-----3rd choice: there is no 3rd choice!)
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History repeating itself - it’s the 1980’s all over again. How will those things tow a boat through hilly northern Michigan?
(Not that there are too many people left here)


12 posted on 01/09/2008 10:00:52 AM PST by PCBMan (We hit a snag when the universe imploded. But Dad seemed cautiously optimistic.)
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The Vette isn’t likely to face the axe, since it’s more of a halo car, plus it gets decent mpg. Chevy will just wring a couple more mpg out of the Aveo to make up for it.


13 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:01 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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SOLUTION: PUT DIESELS IN ‘EM!!

More bang per cylinder.


14 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:05 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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BTW, I’m invoking the picture rule. Let’s see that bad boy!

The white C4 is my wifes (by the way, I get over 30 MPH on the highway if I keep my foot out of it!)

http://www.ah6le.net/corvette

15 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:06 AM PST by KenHorse (The Internet. Enabling the village idiot to become the global idiot with the click of the mouse)
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To: wastedyears

Unfortunately, Ford is confusing power with torque, and most V8 buyers buy V8s for the low-end grunt they deliver. It ain’t the same with a V6 or — heaven forbid — a four, even if it does produce 300 hp. Yet another reason not to buy a Ford...


16 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:24 AM PST by Jagman (TATATATATATATA! Ford sells my dreams to a third world conglomerate)
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....besides, you ever hear what those overjuiced squeaker motors sound like? Imagine pulling 4,000 lbs for 3 hours with the turbo whining to get every drop out of 3.3 litres of displacement.


17 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:39 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
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This is why God gave us used Lexus LS400s:

A sedate-looking real-wheel-drive monster with a 4.0 liter, 290hp V8. It looks like you're obeying the speed limit when The Law is around, but it'll deliver 0-60mph in 6.6 seconds. And, it's built by Toyota, so it'll run forever.

18 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:45 AM PST by TonyInOhio (C*H*A*N*G*E (Covert Hillary Agency for Negative Gushing Effusions))
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Come to West Texas and join me in the open-road race we have out here.

They close like 150 miles of highway and let you at it (timed for some seperation, not in a group, so you don’t really have to worry about other drivers).

Only one of the Ferraris in the race ended up being carted away in pieces . . . . Several ZVettes and Porsches didn’t make it . . .


19 posted on 01/09/2008 10:02:31 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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Big pickups would use four-cylinder engines

LOL, yeah, well, get ready to see your truck division go bust, pal.

20 posted on 01/09/2008 10:02:50 AM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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