Posted on 01/09/2008 6:10:58 AM PST by dangus
As surely as Al Gore didn't win the presidential election in 2000, Hillary Clinton didn't win the New Hampshire primary in 2008. George Bush won the most electoral votes, so he won the 2000 election. And no reporter who has ever mentioned campaigning for specific states or electoral votes can ever pretend that this was somehow unfair. Likewise, Obama won New Hampshire, 12 votes to 11, if CNN's accounting can be relied upon.
Meanwhile, Clinton can take comfort knowing that even though she's lost the battle, she has won the war, already. What happens February 5th won't matter much, because Hillary has started out the "race" with a huge head start: With a goal of 2,025 delegates, Hillary already has a lead of over 100 delegates, or more than 5% of the total.
Frankly, I sort of wish Obama had won the most votes in New Hampshire, helping him win the most votes on February 5th. I'd've loved to hear the Democrats explain to all those voters that their actual votes don't matter; the party had already made their choice before the first primary, and it was Hillary.
But then I realize that most black "leaders" in America are merely Uncle Toms for the modern welfare-state plantation; they'd never dare mention how the Democrats are still disenfranchising them as surely as they did when they were wearing white robes.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Actual delegate totals:
Clinton, 183
Obama, 78
Edwards, 52
Richardson, 19
Kucinich, 1
Republicans have far fewer delegates at their convention. Their current totals:
Romney, 30
Huckabee, 21
McCain, 10
Thompson, 6
Paul, 2
Hunter, 1
Giuliani, 1
Obama won New Hampshire, 12 votes to 11
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Interesting
... so here's a bunny with a pancake on it's head.
IS it just me? I don’t see a 12 to 11 vote number/ratio/delegate/whatever in that link at all.
Hey, pancake-head: Try following the link. Obama has 12 delegates from NH; Clinton has 11. Primary rules allow elected officials to defy the voters, and offset the popular vote results.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Scroll to NH.
(I hope the sacrasm doesn’t offend you... I just couldn’t resist the opportunity to use “pancake-head”.)
OK, that’s all you had to say in the first place. Don’t blame me if you lacked clarity in yuor original description.
You’ve got to add-in the dem “super delegates” — there are about 850 of these — Chthullu bought and paid for these two years ago...
The real delegate count for Chthullu is over 1,000 at this point. What we need to hope is that Osama gets more “at-large” ‘rat delegates then Chthullu and then watch the war of the donkeys.
It’s of passing interest that Obama took more delegates from New Hampshire, but seeing as how Clinton is creaming the whole field (especially with the Super delegates), it doesn’t really much matter at this point.
After Super Tuesday, if Obama does well, that situation will be different.
Good. If this is true, I’m glad that the world sees sHrillary as the winner.
Because that means, in effect, that she is actually weaker than it appears. And thus, she will be much more beatable in Nov. 08.
Of course I never saw sHrillary as an insurmountable problem for Republicans. Her ‘aura’ is mostly the hype of lib-loving media types. Of course, many middle voters buy into that media hype, and thus are brainwashed into supporting sHrillary.
But in the end, I believe her abrasive personality will be her undoing.
Is this the total for Wyoming, Iowa, and New Hampshire?
Be careful, or this is going to turn into a Rachel Corrie thread...
Actually, its the previously announced “super-delegates” that I was counting when I said that Hillary already has a lead of about 100. I guess Hillary has a little over 150 superdelegates, Obama about 50; Edwards more than 30; Richardson 19, and about 600 unpledged.
I’m a Fred supporter but will offer Romney free advice (cuz better him than Huck or McCain):
Make sure that you make it clear on the campaign trail that you lead the delegate count.
No. The Democrats didn’t caucus in Wyoming, but the results do include a couple hundred already-announced super-delegates.
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