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Will the GOP Contenders Break Their Suicide Pact?
Townhall.com ^ | Tuesday, January 8, 2008 | Michael Medved

Posted on 01/08/2008 4:51:36 PM PST by outofstyle

Whatever the final results of Tuesday’s New Hampshire Primary, the Republican Party endured four damaging days in the run-up to that climactic confrontation.

The two debates over the weekend (Saturday night on ABC TV, then Sunday evening on Fox News) showed our candidates at their worst..... The problem wasn’t the performance of one candidate, but the negative and niggling tone of all of them – especially in contrast to their Democratic rivals. A few more weeks of this nit-picking, negative nonsense and we will turn a difficult general election campaign into an impossible one......

LOOK TO THE FUTURE, NOT THE PAST

The twin GOP debates featured fiery, extended exchanges over picayune details of little or no concern to the average voter. Did Mitt Romney really raise taxes in Massachusetts or did he just raise $240 million in fees? Did Mike Huckabee’s article that used a phrase citing the Bush administration’s “arrogant bunker mentality” indicate he wanted more negotiations or, as he now insists, more troops to do a more aggressive job? Did Mitt Romney read the article before he commented on it – or afterward? Did John McCain favor “amnesty” per se or merely “a form of amnesty” (as Mitt Romney now qualifies his attack)? Did Romney’s attack ads accuse McCain of amnesty, or not? Did Rudy make New York a full “sanctuary city” fourteen years ago or merely make accommodations for humanitarian reasons, like emergency medical care or reporting crimes? Did McCain vote against the Bush tax cuts because he loves high taxes (even though he’s never voted to raise taxes in 25 years in Congress) or because he insisted on linking cuts in taxes with cuts in spending?

These quibbles make all our candidates look like losers....

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debates; election; michaelmedved; nh2008; republican
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1 posted on 01/08/2008 4:51:38 PM PST by outofstyle
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To: outofstyle
Medved's Dream Ticket:


2 posted on 01/08/2008 4:56:02 PM PST by Checkers (John McCain is Bob Dole minus the character, humor, class, record, loyalty, honor, mental fitness...)
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To: outofstyle
Personally, I like the relevations of the candidates. With so much lies and nonsense and spin being blown about, it at least gives you issues that you can research on your own and see if there is any validity to the accusations. I must say it doesn’t present a good picture of any of the front runners. GO FRED!
3 posted on 01/08/2008 4:57:25 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: outofstyle
These quibbles make all our candidates look like losers....

No. They actually provide valuable information to allow us not to buy into phony packaging by the candidates he listed in this excerpt. (Romney, Huckabee, McCain)

4 posted on 01/08/2008 5:00:57 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Ingtar
No. I believe they do make the candidates look bad. People who watch TV to pick their candidates really do want to see a positive forward looking optimistic personality. There are many fickle voters out there.
5 posted on 01/08/2008 5:06:35 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: outofstyle

Who in Hell put Melville in charge??


6 posted on 01/08/2008 5:12:40 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: outofstyle

Medved is a real sob...I can’t stand that guy..glad Rush never has him sub anymore


7 posted on 01/08/2008 5:16:01 PM PST by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: outofstyle

“These quibbles make all our candidates look like losers....”

That’s because the candidates he was talking about: McCain, Rudy, Romney and the Huckster are losers. And we’re all losers if any of those losers gets the nomination.


8 posted on 01/08/2008 5:19:21 PM PST by NavVet (If you don't defend conservatism in the Primary, you won't have it to defend in the Election)
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To: outofstyle

There are only two conservatives in the race. A vote for anyone else is a vote we will have to regret for years to come. If there weren’t anyone else, fine, I understand “lesser of evil” calculations, but there are two fine conservatives in this race. There is no excuse to vote center-left unless center-left reflects your politics.


9 posted on 01/08/2008 5:29:39 PM PST by marron
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To: marron
Um, I hate to be the first to break it to you, but regardless of how virtuous your vote is, or everyone else's here, there is simply no way in a warm place the result of the 2008 presidential elections will be a strong reagan conservative in the white house, with a compliant congress waiting on him hand and foot.

The leader of the Republican party is below 40% in the polls.

Republicans lost congress a year ago.

The most moderate Republican will be lucky to scrap in by the skin of his teeth if the Dems blow it and foreign events break our way perfectly.

Your precious conservative virtue has exactly nothing to do with it.

Our party took the country into a messy war and failed to win it rapidly - though we are winning it belately.

There will be consequences. I don't like it, but I live in the real world.

This isn't a reason to adopt bad policies or abandon sound principles. But the fantasist belief that if only we don't we are sure to win, is a childish delusion.

10 posted on 01/08/2008 5:36:41 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Checkers

those are two incredibly scary pictures there.

the huckabee family photo makes me wonder where they could be hiding those boys these days.

And the McVain photo makes me fearful that global warming will become his next crusade and he won’t stop until he has destroyed our industrial base like he did the campaign finance system. (he also seems to be unaware that this sign is Canadian....)


11 posted on 01/08/2008 5:40:08 PM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: outofstyle

Romney non-positive flip/flop campaign == GOP Suicide


12 posted on 01/08/2008 5:41:03 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: outofstyle

Let’s all talk in feel-good psycho-babble!

The campaign staffer who thought up Obama’s “change” mantra is the same guy who thought up MA Dem Gov Cadillac Deval Patrick’s equally ambiguous slogan “Together we can!” Together we can WHAT?

It’s verbal lobotomy...


13 posted on 01/08/2008 5:42:03 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Ingtar

I agree that the “quibbles” are just a part of politics. This party needs it. We haven’t had a good debate on what we believe in a long time. This could be the best thing for us.


14 posted on 01/08/2008 5:51:06 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: ohiobuckeye1997
Medved is a real sob...I can’t stand that guy..glad Rush never has him sub anymore.

Agreed. With "conservatives" like Medved, who needs a democrat opposition? I stopped listening to him when he became a sob-sister on behalf of illegal immigrants, never stating the damage allowing them to stay here does to the body politic or citizens and foreign nationals legally here.

Go back to the democrat party, Mikey. Your fifteen minutes of fame are over.

15 posted on 01/08/2008 6:04:52 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckabubba will never be president.)
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To: bpjam

“And the McVain photo makes me fearful that global warming will become his next crusade and he won’t stop until he has destroyed our industrial base like he did the campaign finance system. (he also seems to be unaware that this sign is Canadian....)”

Where is McCain on the “Fairness Doctrine”? I bet McVain would like to shut up Rush, Laura, Hugh, et. al..


16 posted on 01/08/2008 6:39:14 PM PST by Checkers (John McCain is Bob Dole minus the character, humor, class, record, loyalty, honor, mental fitness...)
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To: MBB1984
This piece by Medved is a long article about "the negative and niggling tone" of Republican candidates. Granted, I basically skimmed the whole article (it's a long one) for specific mention of Thompson and found only this: Take taxes, for instance: Mike Huckabee backs the radical reform known as the “fair tax.” Fred Thompson supports his own radical restructuring program, involving the elimination of numerous loop-holes and reducing the number of total tax brackets to a much “flatter” two (or three). Instead of going back to argue over an Arkansas tax dispute of 1997, or a Fred Thompson committee vote from 1999, why not explain these two plans and debate their virtues?

So Thompson wants to simplify tax brackets to two or three. I assume the commitee vote from 1999 was either on CFR or a two- or three-level tax bracket, though I don't know; perhaps I missed it higher up in the piece. I was looking for specific charges against Thompson's record, things that might betray him as inconsistent or dishonest.

I skimmed because I know enough of the other four candidates' records to be convinced that policy-wise, they have zero compulsion about liberal application of government to solve everything from health care to "global warming." They are not conseratives, therefore I have no confidence in their ability to recognize conservative judges, let alone appoint them.

On the other hand, at the top of the story, Medved refers to picayune details of little or no concern to the average voter. Did Mitt Romney really raise taxes in Massachusetts or did he just raise $240 million in fees? Did Mike Huckabee’s article that used a phrase citing the Bush administration’s “arrogant bunker mentality” indicate he wanted more negotiations or, as he now insists, more troops to do a more aggressive job?

These are "PICAYUNE details"?

Yeesh.

17 posted on 01/08/2008 6:41:40 PM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: Checkers

Dont give McCain any ideas, he did enough damage with the CFR bill!!


18 posted on 01/08/2008 7:10:44 PM PST by WOSG (angry old coot McCain has been a crazed and frequent backstabber of fellow Republicans)
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To: outofstyle
These quibbles make all our candidates look like losers...

Yeah, there's a reason for that.

Go FRED!

19 posted on 01/08/2008 7:18:05 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("When we say I saw the PATRIOTS win the WORLD SERIES, it doesn't necessarily mean ...." - Mitt)
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To: Checkers

I declare that dood in the middle in the streaked shirt looks like John Candy double.


20 posted on 01/08/2008 7:22:04 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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