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To: DelphiUser; colorcountry
They have stressed that God is Jesus' father in every way.

and the conception which took place "by the power of the Holy Ghost"

Christ is not the Son of the Holy Ghost, but of the Father.

First you have to make up your mind(s). Is it the product of God or the Holy Spirit? Your leadership authorities and teachings are sounding very confused. No wonder you are confused.

Bruce R. McConkie

Is sounding like a very confused, conflicted individual - and he was made an apostle? But then he was brought up in the following teachings:

It was the result of natural action, (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 115).
Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, page 51); (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, page 19).
"The Father came Himself and favoured that spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it" (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, page 218, 1857.) The birth was the result of natural action, (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 115).
"The Father God was the literal parent of Jesus in the flesh as well as in the spirit." (Religious Truths Defined, p. 44)

The Offensive blasphemous damnable heresy thrust upon us from Anti Mormons that God had Sex with Mary.

Sorry to break it to you, but the record doesn't lie. Your general authorities have taught and promoligated this teaching. Young, Pratt, Kimball and lots others are documented in their teaching of this. It is logical extension of mormon doctrine since "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's" (Doctrine and Covenants, sec. 130:22).

2,017 posted on 01/29/2008 11:14:31 AM PST by Godzilla (I may be schizophrenic, but at least I'll always have each other.)
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To: Godzilla; colorcountry
Sorry to break it to you, but the record doesn't lie.

As my Father once told me "Figures don't lie, but Liars do Figures.

The quotations are probably true quotations, (I'm not going to check them all.) But your use of them is a lie. All these men you are quoting if they were General Authorities of the LDS church have borne testimony to the virgin birth.

Your general authorities have taught and promoligated this teaching. Young, Pratt, Kimball and lots others are documented in their teaching of this. It is logical extension of mormon doctrine since "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's" (Doctrine and Covenants, sec. 130:22).

Your logic can best be illustrated by a joke (if you know what I mean...

A couple go on vacation to a fishing resort in northern Minnesota. The husband likes to fish at the crack of dawn. The wife likes to read. One morning the husband returns after several hours of fishing and decides to take a nap. Although not familiar with the lake, the wife decides to take the boat out. She motors out a short distance, anchors, and continues to read her book. Along comes a ranger in his boat. He pulls up alongside the woman and says,"Good morning Ma'am. What are you doing?" "Reading a book," she replies, (thinking "isn't that obvious?") "You're in a restricted fishing area," he informs her. "I'm sorry officer, but I'm not fishing, I'm reading." "Yes, but you have all the equipment. I'll have to take you in and write you up." "If you do that, I'll have to charge you with sexual assault," says the woman. "But I haven't even touched you," says the policeman. "That's true, but you have all the equipment."
Your argument that We teach that God had sex with Mary boils down to "you believe that God has all the Equipment". One word, Lame!
2,036 posted on 01/29/2008 1:48:58 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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