We’ve fought many battles over this one, MHG. We’re not going to resolve it today.
Tell you what: I’ll have faith, and believe, and do good works. You have faith and believe. If you’re right, we’re both filled with the Holy Spirit, we’re both cleansed, and we’re both saved. Meanwhile, I’ll have a happier life.
"You have faith and believe." tantiboh Ahh, and the word faithe is substituted for believe and the life I'm living is a walk with Him in my human spirit, transforming me by the renewing of my mind. In your belief system, when will the Holy Spirit come into your human spirit to renew your mind?... After all that you can do to earn that Grace?
"If you’re right, we’re both filled with the Holy Spirit, we’re both cleansed, and we’re both saved." tantiboh Son, if you are filled with the Holy Spirit now, not some later after all that you can do to be worthy, then you and I are in --already in-- the same family! I sincerely hope that is the case, Tant.
"Meanwhile, I’ll have a happier life." tantiboh Oh really? If you are awaiting some deliverance after all that you can do, then you are in a different LIFE because eternal LIFE is already in me due to my faithing in the Promise from God that He will be in me to will and to do of His good pleasure. I count it the greatest expression of happiness to be able to write this to you of assurance, because what I write to you regarding my gaurantee is based on amening the Promises of God, not some doctrine penned by a peepstone false prophet who is a proven liar and conman who put all sorts of man-made conditions on your assurance of God's Deliverance for your immortal soul.