Evangelicals Against Mitt

The American Spectator ^ | 1/3/2008 | Carrie Sheffield

[tantiboh]

Mitt Romney is facing an unexpected challenge in Iowa from rival Mike Huckabee, who has enjoyed a groundswell of support from religious voters, particularly evangelical Christians wary of the clean-cut former Massachusetts governor because of his Mormon religion.

The common worry among evangelicals is that if Romney were to capture the White House, his presidency would give legitimacy to a religion they believe is a cult. Since the LDS church places heavy emphasis on proselytizing -- there are 53,000 LDS missionaries worldwide -- many mainstream Christians are afraid that Mormon recruiting efforts would increase and that LDS membership rolls would swell.

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THE ONLY PROBLEM with those fears is that they don't add up. Evangelicals may be surprised to learn that the growth of church membership in Massachusetts slowed substantially during Romney's tenure as governor. In fact, one could make the absurdly simplistic argument that Romney was bad for Mormonism.

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ONE WAY TO GAUGE what might happen under a President Romney would be to look at what happened during the period of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. Held in Salt Lake City, they were dubbed the "Mormon Olympics."

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Despite all the increased attention, worldwide the Church grew only slightly, and in fact in the year leading up to the games the total number of congregations fell. Overall, from 2000 to 2004, there was a 10.9 percent increase in memberships and a 3.6 percent increase in congregations.

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The LDS church is likely to continue its current modest-but-impressive growth whether or not Romney wins the White House. Perhaps the only real worry for evangelicals is that, if elected, the former Massachusetts governor will demonstrate to Americans that Mormons don't have horns.

Carrie Sheffield, a member of the LDS Church, is a writer living in Washington, D.C.

[DelphiUser]

Some of us NEVER learn!! ;^)

Truer words were never spoken by you.

[DarthVader]

The Bible and the testimony of thousands of Christian apologetics says so.

[DarthVader]

Yes I do but is better to be a flawed sinner saved by grace than follow a false god.

[DarthVader]

Besides logic does not save you, only faith does

[DarthVader]

I have a little reading assignment for you, read the links in post#863 and then several of us Christians will have a educated debate with you over the validity of Mormonism if you have the belly for it.

[rodeo-mamma]

Because they were born into it, it is a way of life. It doesn’t mean a person is going to hell just because they are a Mormon. Mormons are capable of being Christians just like everyone one else.

[rodeo-mamma]

Cause they are being self-rightous, getting too much into another person’s personal belief system, when know one really knows who is sincere or not. Anyone who blows too much smoke about which church a person goes into isn’t really interested in the truth, they have other motives, like following the orders of the congregation that they go to. That’s a hypocrite. They are over-looking that it is a personal relationship with Christ, and not which church you go to.

[DarthVader]

RM,

Mormons who become Christians usually leave the LDS Church. Please go read some things on post#863 and educate yourself a little bit. You will find it eye-opening.

[Dan(9698)]

Do you 'accept' this?

Yes I do.

My Grandfather had one wife.

My Father had one wife.

I have one wife.

We were married in 1962.

My five sons each have one wife

[Dan(9698)]

When you post a stupid statement, expect a stupid answer.

I have not used one of these “answers”

[RobbyS]

Some deplore Mormon influence, in Utah and in surrounding states where the Mormons are strong. But, heck, the Mormons were there first, even before the region was part of the United States. Indeed, they came to escape American persecution. More than a hundred years ago, they made peace with US authority, so they have earned their position. .

[Diamond]

1 Kings 18:39 - “The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God.”

I am not learned enough to know why the translators of the version you quote chose to interpret it as they did; but this sort of ambiguity is precisely why there is still such a dire need for modern prophets.

Why is the word "LORD" in all caps? Do you know?

Cordially,

[DelphiUser]

Likewise:

Book of Mormon evidences

Farms

Fair wiki

Fair

[Dan(9698)]

Awww, is it frustrated ‘cause it can’t get any response to its tauntings. Poor thing ... live with it, Binks.

I haven't posted any tauntings.

You asked about "one wife" that is appropriate, I answered with a serious answer. More than once.

I just think that the source of your doctrine should be examined, the same as you do mine.

When it gets to a serious question, all you guys disappear. Only to appear on another bash.

I asked how and when the doctrine changed from what was taught by the Apostolic Christian Church to what is taught now.

I gave you an independent reference from the Catholic Encyclopedia showing what the Apostolic Christian Church taught, and I either got no answer or I got a rant about lying about Tertullian.

I recognize that the doctrine changed and you can believe what you want, so that is not the issue.

Again, I ask without reference to Tertullian, how and when it changed.

[DarthVader]

Review the documents and I will be back with an army. Be prepared to meet your doom.

[MHGinTN]

I have posted absolutely nothing about wives you may or may not have. As ususal, you are mistaken.

[DelphiUser]

A "cult" is a closed religious organization that teaches that their organization is the ONLY organization that should be followed. .....An organization that refers to all other religious organizations as "abominations." It's the prideful exaltation of one's own peculiarities.

LDS falls within this definition.

Cult:

1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific. –adjective
9. of or pertaining to a cult.
10. of, for, or attracting a small group of devotees: a cult movie.

You seem to have a private, pejorative definition of the word Cult which you apply to us specifically, by your definition, I think the Catholic church qualifies as a "Cult" too. I have also seen many of these So-called Christian Churches saying they were the "path to salvation" and that adherents to other faiths were damned, admittedly, that was years ago. but if they have not repudiated that belief and are just not emphasizing it, are they still a cult?

Then there is the little matter of the Dictionary, words mean things, IMHO all churches would qualify as a cult according to their definition.

I have still not decided what to do, I am still pining for Fred.

[Dan(9698)]

I ment to put elsie on that answer as well.

He asked, and I think it is a legitimate question.

It is well documented why and how that change took place.

It is fair to ask about your changes in doctrine.

[DelphiUser]

You can’t refute the Trinity from the Bible but by your Satanic Book Of Mormon. Read the websites and then we’ll talk about things. I don't need to read thos sites, I have read the Bible, and the Catholic enclyclopedia which tell me all I need to know, I don't need to read anything written by someone who was not there telling me this anti Biblical creed is acceptable unto God.

I understand that you are sincere in your mistakenness on this, that will make you no less wrong for the Bible just disagrees with you.

[Jo Nuvark]

TANTIBOH
If Biblical teaching (Scripture) isn’t your baseline for truth,
instruction and the meaning of life, I’m afraid you are without
a substantive argument for ANY religion be it false or true.

[... your heresies and false teachings (snip) are to be rejected, refuted and made outcast...]

Son of man, I have appointed you a watchman to the house of Israel;
whenever you hear a word from My mouth, warn them from Me. When I
say to the wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn him or
speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live,
that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require
at your hand. Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn
from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity;
but you have delivered yourself. (EZEKIEL 3:17-19)

“The wise of heart will receive commands but a
babbling fool will be thrown down.” (Proverbs 10:8)