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US Analyzing Recordings of Iranians
Yahoo News cia Associated Press ^ | January 8, 2008 | SEBASTIAN ABBOT

Posted on 01/08/2008 10:34:23 AM PST by america4vr

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To: RightWhale

Explain the significance of Mars not being in prograde until 1 Feb. I know they are big in astronomy, just not this particular bit. Does this have to do with the Mahdi and spring or something?


41 posted on 01/08/2008 11:48:11 AM PST by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: garyhope
I don’t understand why we just didn’t hose all those boats. Just turn the Phalanx canons on them and make em, puff, disappear.

It would have served no purpose to do so -- and most likely it would have done more harm than good.

As it turns out, the Iranians probably hurt themselves by doing this, and having our guys not respond.

42 posted on 01/08/2008 11:51:55 AM PST by r9etb
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To: dashing doofus
Can you imagine if they had actually attacked one of our ships in international waters?

Then they would have been destroyed. Simple as that -- the USN's guns were already locked and targeted.

43 posted on 01/08/2008 11:53:16 AM PST by r9etb
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To: statered

LOL
The mahdi already showed up, in 1960 but it was the Maadi Yacht Club. As to Mars, Iran invented the science.


44 posted on 01/08/2008 11:53:49 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: america4vr

It’s why theocracies are the worst, you get a cult like Islam where they convert or kill you then civility and world peace goes right out the window.


45 posted on 01/08/2008 11:57:19 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: america4vr

The Ol’Gipper. I smile just thinking about him. Then i look at New Hampshire and want to cry :-(


46 posted on 01/08/2008 11:59:16 AM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: r9etb

Of course, but I don’t think we should wait until fired upon.


47 posted on 01/08/2008 12:05:52 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: garyhope
Just turn the Phalanx canons on them and make em, puff, disappear.

A friend of mine has worked on the issue of close defense against little boats. The Phalanx doesn't work so well for that.

Targeting is a big problem because little boats keep disappearing behind waves. So automation is very difficult. Also, I'm not sure the phalanx even depresses enough to serve in that role. It's an air defense system.

48 posted on 01/08/2008 12:09:51 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: dashing doofus
Of course, but I don’t think we should wait until fired upon.

They wouldn't have been allowed to fire first -- and even so, those little boats couldn't have carried anything big enough to do more than chip the paint.

The "fire" order would have been based on distance, speed, and direction. The Iranians apparently got close enough to almost be obliterated.

49 posted on 01/08/2008 12:18:26 PM PST by r9etb
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To: A CA Guy
Exactly right.

Religion, I've always said, it's just another form of politics, a more intensely manipulating vehicle for controlling the populace, for eliminating dissent, political opposition.

What better way to defeat your enemies than by chopping block?

50 posted on 01/08/2008 12:36:34 PM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: ModelBreaker
Targeting is a big problem because little boats keep disappearing behind waves. So automation is very difficult. Also, I'm not sure the phalanx even depresses enough to serve in that role. It's an air defense system.

The Block 1B Phalanx update includes a "Surface Mode" for protection against these sort of threats. The mounting position was changed to allow the gun assembly to depress further when in surface mode.

51 posted on 01/08/2008 12:43:04 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: brownsfan

Reading articles today that discuss the foolish (and IMO treasonous) approach of the Dumbocrat presidential candidates towards Iraq and our forces in Iraq—they would withdraw them immediately—reminded me that the worst president in US history, Jimmy Carter, took the same approach with the Shah of Iran. That led Iran to be taken over by Shiite fundamentalist zealots, something that would happen to Iraq if we pulled out precipitously.


52 posted on 01/08/2008 1:36:11 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Redefeat Communism by defeating Hitlary in 2008)
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To: Charles Martel
Raytheon specifically calls out Boghammars, rigid inflatables, and swimmers for surface mode. Check out page 16.
53 posted on 01/08/2008 1:54:54 PM PST by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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To: naturalized

There’s even a land-based version of R2D2 that’s been deployed in Iraq. I’m not sure, but I think it can shoot down falling mortar shells.


54 posted on 01/08/2008 2:09:46 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: dashing doofus
These psychos might have been engaging in a dry run, to test our reaction.

I think Iran WANTS a military confrontation with the USA.

They see the possibility of a Rat president becoming more likely so they are trying to step up the pace a bit. After all, they only have 1 year left to cause a shooting war with certainty.

55 posted on 01/08/2008 4:37:22 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Domandred

But the only folks with anyone named Will are on our team.

Can we fire at Muhammad instead ?


56 posted on 01/08/2008 4:56:49 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: dashing doofus
These psychos might have been engaging in a dry run, to test our reaction.

Of course they were.

They also were hoping our guys did fire on them and then they would claim we were bullying them in their own waters (ignoring Internationally agreed on territorial limits.)

They were also hoping that the media uproar would spill over into the Presidential primary campaign race.

57 posted on 01/08/2008 6:24:50 PM PST by anymouse
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To: SteamShovel

They probably just wanted an incident to get enough people riled up to support their Hezbo buddies in advance of the Mideast meetings.


58 posted on 01/08/2008 11:38:58 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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