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The religion of the "native Americans" was also said to be peaceful. And in many ways it was. But at heart it was murderously disregardful of life by being tolerant of murderous raids and kidnapings on the weak and isolated.

And eventually led even the good hearted -- once they lived in the border areas, and saw year after year the results of the Indian terrorism, aka Indian raids on isolated hamlets and farms -- led even the good hearted to say "the only good Indian is a dead Indian."

An example -- L. Frank Baum, who wrote the wonderfully humane and celebratory of diversity books about Oz. When he moved to the border area in the west and became a newspaper editor he wrote:

The peculiar policy of the government in employing so weak and vacillating a person as General Miles to look after the uneasy Indians, has resulted in a terrible loss of blood to our soldiers .. a disgrace to the war department. There has been plenty of time for prompt and decisive measures, the employment of which would have prevented this disaster.
The Pioneer has before declared that our only safety depends upon the total extermination of the Indians. Having wronged them for centuries we had better, in order to protect our civilization, follow it up by one more wrong and wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth. In this lies future safety for our settlers and the soldiers who are under incompetent commands. Otherwise, we may expect future years to be as full of trouble with the redskins as those have been in the past.

IMO, Baum was wrong that we had "wronged them for centuries" -- why? Because the situation as Baum saw it in his time -- that the Indians were untamed and untamable, had been the experience of every generation prior.

President Andrew Jackson -- a man who truly loved the Indians saw the thing much clearer. That the Indians could only be tolerable in isolated single tribe compounds -- reservations -- far removed from civilization, whereat by the sheer isolation that their cultural habit of terrorism against the isolated, or of shock murdering and kidnap raids against neighboring tribes, those habits would be impossible to carry out, and then hopefully over generations be forgotten and eventually their culture could be distilled of its murderous poisons.

These wars with Islam are so damn similar to our Indian wars. And those wars lasted 250 years. American versus Indian.

And just has it happened that many good-hearted people generation after generation cried out on behalf of the Indians and decried our harshness, failing to see that such harshness was the greater love, and the social necessity to stop murder and kidnap -- just as that misguided, short-visioned yet kind-seeming myopia continued and by continuing delayed the cure and prolonged the misery of all souls -- so to it is that today we have the same situation.

The clear-eyed are ignored and derided to our hazard, and to agonies and sadnesses that will be had on account of a doe-eyed diplomatic sentiment.

Interesting views. Thanks for the time to post.

Does this mean we should have the children play ‘cowboys and Indians’....errr.. Cowboys and Muslims - nowadays? Hardy to say, but we need to do something to retain what is left of “American culture”.

We fought the Japs (yup, Japs, as in 1940) and to make lasting peace, had to basically destroy the Japans culture as it existed from 1920 or so to wars end. For Germany, we utterly destroyed the country and reformed the Govt at gunpoint.

As for the Muzzies, hard to say - the ones we are fightling really are not a State, and in many cases, not even really a Nation - more of a Tribe. That is going to make things difficult to say theleast.

Recent events in Africa show how quickly tribes trump civilization..