It wouldn't even be a debate without Paul. It would be 4 establishment suits agreeing with eachother on basically everything, with the pretense of "debating."
The Islamists are completely nuts, but they are what they are, and unless we are willing to commit genocide, we are going to have to deal with them as they are.
Our "friendship" with the Saudis came back to bite us. To some degree, disengagement can help.