To: 84rules
I saw NOTHING on that webpage that shows any original legal documents from the trial. The arguments he made were no different from the arguments that have been made many times before and which have been rejected many times before. Aren’t you the least bit interested in the original sources or are you willing to go up against the IRS by saying “Tom Cryer did it. Why can’t I?”
To: jim_trent
Who said anything about any original legal documents from the trial? I certainly didn't. I was pointing out that Mr. Cryer's arguments weren't just some inane ramblings from a disgruntled taxpayer. They are actually very nicely explained and referenced. The point was that the IRS lawyers were unable to come up with any legal reasoning to counter his arguments.
Like it or not, the tactics worked and should encourage us to study them as a means of further limiting a Federal entity that has way too much abusive power.
I am interested in the fact that someone managed to do something against the IRS that was unthinkable twenty years ago. I am further interested in whether or not those four agents named in the lawsuit did violate federal law during the investigation. If so, they must be held accountable and that should be used as a precendent to hold accountable any other agents who may violate federal law in the future.
49 posted on
01/04/2008 8:10:29 AM PST by
84rules
( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
To: jim_trent
63 posted on
01/04/2008 8:52:32 AM PST by
Terabitten
(Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
To: jim_trent
I agree with you on always wanting to see the court documents. I found this out with the cases SCO v. Novell, IBM, etc., where what the press releases and the media were saying often didn’t follow the actual court documents at Groklaw (a site covering these cases), which has all but the sealed documents posted. Lucky for them, they have a PACER account and volunteers to go to the courthouses to get documents.
Mr. Cryer could do a lot for his credibility if he went to the courthouse, got the filings, transcripts and rulings, and posted them on his site.
To: jim_trent
189 posted on
01/04/2008 7:28:14 PM PST by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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