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Iowa Caucuses - Results Live Thread
January 3, 2008 | xjcsa

Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa

Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; biden; caucus; caucuses; dodd; edwards; elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gravel; hillary; huckabee; hunter; ia2008; iowa; keyes; kucinich; livethread; mccain; mikehuckabee; obama; paul; richardson; romney; thompson
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To: xjcsa

I voted for Fred too but after hearing Huckabee speak tonight, I think he can win it all.


2,421 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:16 PM PST by rossusa
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To: imd102
A guy from politico.com(?) on FNC said he was "broke." True?

The guy is an outright liar. Politics is dirty and this is to be expected. We have to overcome the sleaze of the left and the RINOs. I am going to donate another $100.00 to the Fred campaign! We must not give up. We must defeat all the Socialists on the left and right.

2,422 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:16 PM PST by sand88
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To: CTSeditor

Huck should fire his dentist.


2,423 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:18 PM PST by maggief
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To: Star Traveler

There goes Thompson swirling down the drain...


Only 2nd to Obama beating HER tonight in my eyes!!!


2,424 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:18 PM PST by yield 2 the right (New England Patriots: The New Standard of Excellence!!!)
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To: Star Traveler
Sorry, you can’t bring politics into the matter of how a person “qualifies” as a Christian. It may not be a “popular idea” — but you know..., even a Democrat can be a Christian (no matter how much you hate his politics... LOL).

OK, now you're on the side I'm on here...I'll have to take back my last comment. Read my tagline. That, plus the quote of yorus above, is exactly why Huckabee does NOT deserve our support. He is a Christian, he is NOT a conservative.

2,425 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:28 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck Supporters: Being Christian doesn't make one an automatic conservative. Far from it.)
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To: bray

I just cannot believe the absolute ignoring of Fred by the MSM.This is a man who has had a long relationship with
Hollywood (Law & Order) But he still will take 3rd, which is great.


2,426 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:29 PM PST by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Blue Highway

That freaking goony freak Alan Colmes still slagging the Politico BS story about Fred Dropping out asking if he should drop out of the race...


2,427 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:35 PM PST by Blue Highway (The only cure for RINOvirus - Fred Thompson)
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To: advance_copy
When have the Republicans ever nominated someone who wasn’t prolife?

What is there for the “GOP to learn”?

2,428 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:40 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: yorkie

you have heard him preach? or is your opinion based on the opinions of others?


2,429 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:53 PM PST by reflecting
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To: NoobRep

I’ll vote for Ronald McDonald on a write in before I’d vote for a RINO like Huckabee, Rooty, Romney or McFlake. And I’m sure there’s a large crowd of true conservatives that would follow me. Then you guys can blame yourselves for getting a the commie pinkos elected to run the country.

Ping !


2,430 posted on 01/03/2008 7:55:57 PM PST by factmart
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To: maggief

what dentist?!


2,431 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:10 PM PST by RDTF
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To: Victory Rocks

He prolly will win. But its a little early to settle on McCain L0L


2,432 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jmc813
Yeah, I have to admit I'm bummed that McCain is neck and neck with Fred for 3rd. But all that free media (and most of it positive)helps. Sure some of Fred's neagtive press coverage is of his own doing (or not doing) but the vast majority of it is nothing more than MSM and Republican establishment/inside-the-beltway hit pieces.

The day of the caucus Fred's spending all his time denying he's quitting. Can't tell me that didn't supress a few (or a lot of) votes with some folks thinking he's not in it for the long haul. Especially considering the constant mantra from the drive by's and the beltway elites is that he has no "fire in the belly", doesn't want the job.

Fred's result tonight is just more proof that the media plays a HUGE part in determining the outcome of elections. And that really screws Fred because he refuses to pander to the media or play by their rules.

2,433 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:23 PM PST by ejdrapes (Poor Hugh, having to cry himself to sleep tonight...)
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To: roses of sharon
YEs, as I thought, Romney never has dissed another candidates religion for votes.

What? So if a David Duke type candidate held membership in the KKK but stayed quiet about specific racist tenets of the KKK, that's OK with you?

But a good try by you. Journalists who've spoken to those in the Romney campaign assure their readers that Mitt Romney is no "cafeteria" Mormon (meaning a pick & choose whatever parts of his faith he wants). [And when these journalists say this, they mean it as a compliment to him].

Mitt Romney said almost a month ago in his Mormon faith speech that he "will not...disavow one or another of its (faith of his fathers) precepts...I believe in my Mormon faith...I will be true to them and to my beliefs."

So, since he says he "will be true...to my beliefs," the most prominent LDS belief is the 100% "apostasy" of the Christian church--the Church supposedly spiritually laid to rest by the one Romney is a disciple to--Joseph Smith. (Without a Mormon-version 100% Christian apostasy, no need for a Mormon restoration.)

As for dissing another candidate's religion, he already has done that by not disavowing vital components of his faith. And by doing that, he not only indirectly disses us, but alienates his voter base.

He obviously knows this is the year, 2008, and we are civilized now, lol! Some of us, anyway.

This is like saying "Yeah, we all know Candidate A is an open sado-masochist, but as long as he doesn't describe to us what he actually does in bed, then that's our definition of what being 'civil' is."

2,434 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:30 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

she must have done SOMETHING to bill.....did you see that red face........perhaps she choked him.......OR hung him by the ankles from the balcony........he sure does NOT look healthy tonight.....


2,435 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:36 PM PST by tioga (Happy New Year!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I sent $100......gotta support FRed.

I am still stunned after changing back to Fox News. They don’t even mention Fred. It’s all about Mitt, Huck and McCain. Pitiful.


2,436 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:36 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: InvisibleChurch

You asked — “How does Mitt’s upbringing affect his ability to be a president?”

It affects him in that he won’t be getting my vote... LOL...

No cult member gets my vote; no non-Christian gets my vote — Romney has a “double-hit” against him from my voting formula... (both cult and non-Christian).

Regards,
Star Traveler


2,437 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:41 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Tigen

His Christianity is not the problem. His lack of honesty and horrible record in office, both legislatively and ethically, are the problem.


2,438 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:46 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Hoodlum91

“Having lived with a “born-again” evangelical Christian and a Mormon, I can say that they have far more similarities than Fundies would like to acknowledge”

You’d probably call me a “fundie” (I’m a Bible-believing evangelical). I don’t mind acknowledging that Mormons and ourselves have similar values and behaviors. Not identical, but similar. For instance, we both think homosexuality is a sin; we abhor abortion; we believe sex should be within marriage; we are against stealing, lying, profanity; we support charity heavily; we work hard.

Our beliefs in terms of the person and work of God are pretty different, though.


2,439 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:53 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Star Traveler

You would know best!

If you truly can’t see that your posts represent all those phrases, I feel sorry for you. You don’t have any perspective.

I’ll pray you find some soon.


2,440 posted on 01/03/2008 7:56:56 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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