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To: Soliton

Let’s see, that was years ago and he’s had his rights restored. He has received numerous awards for the change he made during/after prison and the good he has done for others. Nope, couldn’t care less. I don’t agree with everything he says, but his past means little.


20 posted on 01/03/2008 9:05:55 AM PST by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan

Forgive him, but don’t rely on his judgement regarding morality.

Morality isn’t in the genes or God, but in memes (also a Dawkins formulation). These memes existed long before Jesus was born and salvation was possible. Mencius had a version of the golden rule as did Socrates as did Buddha as did Hillel.

Societies that acquired the meme grew and supplanted ones that didn’t. Of course no society could ever actually live up to the golden rule in reality. It only works when it is restricted to a group and not to enemies of the group. As a goal, however, it serves as the glue that holds families, tribes, nation-states, countries and cultures together. Although many people require a supernatural being as a lawgiver, the law stands on its own and its evolution is consistant with observed human history under many gods and no gods..


24 posted on 01/03/2008 9:17:08 AM PST by Soliton
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