[unspun]

So, let me see if I understand this right - lower American wages are fueling use of Chinese sweatshops? Or competition from Chinese sweatshops are lowering American wages that have had constant increases for the last 50 years? I'm afraid you have to distill some of the rhetoric for me here.

I don't think you're really dense, kingu.

It's all about "employee productivity." Feel free to look it up, if you like. It means getting the most profitability out the costs of employment.

We fought a war over that, back in the 1860's, except the cheapest weren't called "employees."

BTW, it isn't class warfare -- it is fighting for a classless society, instead of abusive paternalism. Paternalism is for Old (Socialist) Europe.

[kingu]

I don't think you're really dense, kingu.

I've not made it personal, try to be civil and make sure you maintain the same quality in dialog.

We fought a war over that, back in the 1860's, except the cheapest weren't called "employees."

While this might have been what revisionists put forth today, there are ample writings from the time that very clearly state what the issues were behind the civil war.

BTW, it isn't class warfare -- it is fighting for a classless society, instead of abusive paternalism. Paternalism is for Old (Socialist) Europe.

Let's take that and run with it.. Name the top three richest people on the planet... You're welcome to go look it up. Look at their roots. None of them inherited their money, they made it. Even the person you target, Rush Limbaugh, built his radio empire out of nothing. If all these people can amass such incredible fortunes, what does this do to your theory of paternalism?

I'm sure if you continue your research, you'll find the home of paternalism is the US Department of State, something the Huckster seems to hold in high esteem.

[kempo]

“Fighting for a classless society” didn’t Carl Marx say that!

[keepitreal]

Otherwise we get off the track and we do not fulfil the historical role which we want to fulfil: to help the masses, the exploited and the oppressed of the world, build a classless society, a world socialist federation.
Ernest Mandel
Marxist