I think I understand you.
Understand, my gut reaction is based on a being raised by a father who hated women and abused the both me and my mother. I was told I was evil because I was a decendent of Eve. That everything he did we ‘made’ him do (and there was little he didn’t do) because it was the sinful nature of females to make men act that way.
And yes, he truly hated me.
And of course, I turned right around and married my father....Granted, when it was all over, I was far stronger and not afraid anymore.
Will I get married again? No.
I don’t even date.
So I guess what I’m saying is that what you see as a concession and I see as a concession are two different things. That’s all.
But of course. And I would never seek to devalue your experiences. I know you to be a respected and honorable FReeper of long reputation and high standing. You are also sophisticated enough to transcend your personal history in the pursuit of an accurate characterization of modern culture.
If I can not convince you of the reasonableness of my position...it simply is not reasonable.