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To: timm22

I believe in abstaining before marriage and respect women who do so. I also know our media culture is dead set against giving that message and ridicules those who commit to it.

I wouldn’t look at a women who refused sex before marriage as manipulating me into a commitment. I would look at it as her preconditions for finding a husband. If I can’t abide by that, shame on me. If a woman tried to pressure me into either sex or marriage before I was ready, shame on her.

Life’s a two-way street. Neither one ought to ever feel forced into sex or marriage. It should be a union mutually agreed upon or it will likely fail.


282 posted on 01/02/2008 11:52:04 PM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Tall_Texan

Using sex as a tool is manipulative and dirty. It is part of the mentality here that is being discussed. The mentality that women can manipulate men, and men let it happen.

First of all, what makes a woman so confident in herself that she is sure that I want it? If she says ‘you ain’t getting none’ I say ‘what!? None what?’ At that point I don’t want it and that weapon that she is using is immediately lost. Most of the time they have no other discourse.

“You’re sleeping on the couch tonight”

Bullcrap! Thats my bed that I paid for in my house that I pay for. I sleep where I damn well please.

I was single for many years and sex as a tool was the biggest turn off for me. It amused me when women flattered themselves by assuming that I want to have sex with them. (I did, but still)

If you take that out of the equation, then women have no game plan whatsoever. Its their only tool.


285 posted on 01/03/2008 6:46:19 AM PST by shbox (BobbyHill: "What's the matter with those people, Dad?" HankHill: "They're hippies, son")
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