PLAGUED BY CORRUPTION AND TERROR, PAKISTAN HAS NO HOPE OF DEMOCRACY

Daily Express ^

[UKrepublican]

UK Ping list - if you would like on or off, freepmail me.

[UKrepublican]

Well worth a read FRiends.

This guy makes a lot of sense.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Don’t let any of them in this country, or anyone from any middle eastern country.

[rellimpank]

—a dunce named Richardson whose former claim to fame was pinping for jobs for Clinton’s girlfriend has similar thoughts—

—http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945926/posts

[StormEye]

"PLAGUED BY CORRUPTION AND TERROR, PAKISTAN HAS NO HOPE OF DEMOCRACY"

Someone understands the reality of the situation. I'm pleased.

[CyberAnt]

“PLAGUED BY CORRUPTION AND TERROR, PAKISTAN HAS NO HOPE OF DEMOCRACY”

Geeeeee ..?? Isn’t that what the world said about IRAQ ..??

[Desron13]

Trying to impose democracy in Pakistan is like trying to fit an elephants trunk onto a chiwawa. What we need to do is go in and remove the nukes and let them revert to the bronze age as is their most fervent wish.

[Soliton]

The UK doesn’t exist any more. A ping list is futile.

[Carry_Okie]

Geeeeee ..?? Isn’t that what the world said about IRAQ ..??

Pakistan is FAR more backward than Iraq.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

What we need to do is go in and remove the nukes and let them revert to the bronze age as is their most fervent wish.

Yep. Until then, democracy in Pakistan is like Hindu holy men guarding Fort Knox.
Iraq was a different thing. As a nation they are more civilized by Western standards, and they don't have nukes.

[UKrepublican]

Well it most certainly does, and the ping list is doing very well indeed and has been for some time.

But thank you nonetheless.

[dufekin]

Iraq always has been a far easier prospect than the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Dictator General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (1977-1988) spawned Islamofascist fervor that took root among the population of Pakistan unlike that of any other country except perhaps the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. This jihadism metastasized in the ever-lawless Pashtun barbarian tribal areas and apparently in certain cities like Rawalpindi. With plentiful Saudi financing, this part of the world gave rise to the Taliban barbarians and sanctuary to Usama bin Laden. With sane Americans operating in the Traditional Islamic State of Afghanistan, Pakistan no longer can export its extremists to its neighbor.

Saddam Hussein supported and funded Islamofascist terrorists abroad, but at least he was nominally secular at home and almost certainly never particularly popular, especially among the Shia majority or among the starving masses. The Islamofascist ideology embraced only a minority of even the Sunni Arabs in Iraq. The initial unpopularity of the Islamofascist lifestyle make Iraq a relatively simple and easy challenge.

Pacifying, democratizing, and stabilizing Pakistan presents a far different, far more volatile proposition. We ultimately must solve this conundrum, but weakening terror-funding Saudi Arabia and pacifying Iraq first will help, although time is decidedly not on our side. Pakistan contains several enormous cities, vast dense agricultural regions, and barbarous mountain tribal zones. Its total population ranks sixth in the world at 162 million. And this basketcase of a state actually already possesses nuclear weapons and knows how to use them.

[KantianBurke]

“the simplistic notion that a move to “democracy” will magically sort out Pakistan’s many problems has taken root.”

Sadly this has been our foreign policy as well. Its brought the world a Mookie Al Sadr, a murderer of US troops, as kingmaker in the Iraq govt, a democractically elected Hamas govt and plenty other assorted miseries. Nation building is and was idiotic.

[Ann Archy]

They aren’t Christians....that’s why they have those problems.

[Brad from Tennessee]

With resources stretched trying to contain Soviet expansion during the Cold War, the U.S. had a collection of military cabals and dictators in the Third World to squash communist insurgencies. As brutal as these allies were, their enemies were our enemies. Today, most of these countries—once ruled by “strongmen” and “juntas”—are struggling democracies.

Musharraf may not fit the American model of a national leader but for the moment he is better than nobody ruling Pakistan. The army is the most stable entity and apparently supports Musharraf. He has survived nine assassination attempts. With al Qaeda and the Taliban threatening to overrun Pakistan, experiments in democracy can come later.

[bill1952]

What happened to Mad Ivan?

[Vanders9]

You’re all too moderate for him :)

[Soliton]

Britain has become a godless, spineless parody of its former self. No freedom of speech. No freedom to own firearms. A weak military that sponges off the American taxpayer for protection. A citizenry that lives in fear of little yobs with knives.

God bless the England of old. I miss it.

[bill1952]

Did he start another Website?
I had heard that he was on another forum.

[ßuddaßudd]

Just who do those Pakistani people think they are?Democracy? LOL,,, idiots....