Obama's home church

email and website | 12/31/2007

[weegee]

and even when in non-Muslim schools, I read he was registered as a Muslim...

Yep, and even his flak catcher didn't have an answer for "why" that was.

[red irish]

Is there a way to get that transcript,or video?

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Surprise, surprise, Israel is the terrorist state and the Pallie murderers are the oppressed victims

The "churches" of the NCC/UCC all take a united stance on the following social policies:
-Hatred of Israel
-Gay marriage/celebration/all funds towards an AIDS cure
-Pro abortion
-Unmitigated immigration into the US
-Glo"bull" warming
-Mandatory govt funded health care for all
-elimination of God in the masculine from the bible and all worship material
-anti war...as long as a Republican President is conducting it
-Muslim tolerance

Democrat talking points? Coincidence? I don't think so.

[PLD]

You are so right...The bad thing is most Americans that will vote for this Muslim will never know or care what his beliefs are..Most of the ones that will vote for him do not even know how to read..and the Dem's still have them down on the plantation working the Cotton feilds and these people don’t have enough sense to know it..

[MtnClimber]

I saw him appear on Fox News, I think it was Hannity and Colmes, a month or two ago. I don’t recall his name. I will chech to see if I can find a transcript.

[Beckwith]

Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed?

That is a false statement. Please do some real research.

The Obama File

[Beckwith]

Here is some more reading:

http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html

[MtnClimber]

Point 8 is classic “Liberation Theology” rhetoric:

“8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.” Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.

Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:

1. Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

2. Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.

3. Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us.”

So, while it is permissible to chase “middleclassness” with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method – the psychological entrapment of Black “middleclassness.” If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our “voluntary” contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.

[rovenstinez]

Would a white candidate get very far if the church they belonged to was UNASHAMED that it existed for Anglo White heritage?

[MtnClimber]

I found the transcript! A lot longer ago than I recalled. Maybe they had a replay segment...or else I am getting old!

Transcript here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256078,00.html

“Reverend, welcome to the program. Thank you for being with us.

REV. DR. JEREMIAH WRIGHT, TRINITY UNITY CHURCH OF CHRIST: Thank you for having me.

HANNITY: OK, this is the same church. You do have the Web site, right, where it says commitment to the black community, commitment to the black...
WRIGHT: The black value system, which was developed by the congregation, by laypersons of the congregation, 26 years ago, very similar to the gospel (INAUDIBLE) developed by laypersons in Nicaragua during the whole liberation theology movement, 26, 28, 30 years ago, yes.”

[FReepapalooza]

There’s a link to their “talking points” regarding that interview on the bottom of the front page. http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm

[sheik yerbouty]

And he spent four years in a Wahabi funded madrassa in Indonesia.If he is no longer of TROP why have the rest of TROP given him a pass on his apostasy? Their sharia law would demand his death..

[Beckwith]

And he spent four years in a Wahabi funded madrassa in Indonesia

He never did any such thing.

He spent 3 years in a Roman Catholic school and two in a state school. He was registered as a Muslim in both.

Repeating this madrassa bullcrap gives Obama's people a straw man to bat down while avoiding very real real issues.

The Obama File

[PapaBear3625]

Fox News has:

Obama came to the UCC at age 26 through the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, a self-described "unashamedly black" church that emphasizes the importance of black family life and community service, while criticizing the U.S. war in Iraq.

And there doesn't seem to be another Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago other than the one in the referenced website.

So Obama chooses to go to a church that is focused on The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.

Cone appears to be a "Liberation Theologist" who tries to integrate Marxism with theology. I'd love to hear Obama being questioned about his church's theology as much as Mitt has been

[Beckwith]

Cone appears to be a "Liberation Theologist" who tries to integrate Marxism with theology.

In his first memoir, "Dreams," Obama included a description of black student life at Occidental College in Los Angeles.

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote.  "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

He added: "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully.  The more politically active black students.  The foreign students.  The Chicanos.  The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

The Obama File

[Beckwith]

Obama would  describe his grandparents, the people who raised him, as "white folk."

From adolescence onward, Obama wanted a race to belong to, a team whose accomplishments would reflect well upon him.  Of course, it was unthinkable in his liberal white family to take pride in the achievements of his mother’s race, so Obama gloried in being part of his absent father’s race.

From the age of ten onward, though, Obama desperately wants to be black: “I was trying to raise myself to be a black man in America, and beyond the given of my appearance, no one around me seemed to know exactly what that meant.” Honolulu’s paucity of African-Americans means he has to learn to be black from the media: “TV, movies, the radio; those were places to start. Pop culture was color-coded, after all, an arcade of images from which you could cop a walk, a talk, a step, a style.”

He cherishes every cause for complaint he can discern against white folks. He is constantly distressed at being half-white. Obama says he “ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites,”

When his grandmother wants a ride to work because the day before, while awaiting the bus, she was threatened by a black panhandler, he is outraged -- at his grandparents.

Later, when he moves to the South Side of Chicago in 1984, he eventually discovers that, like his grandmother, he’s sometimes scared of black males on the street, too.

The Obama File

[epow]

I'd love to hear Obama being questioned about his church's theology as much as Mitt has been

Don't hold your breath.

None of his Democrat primary opponents would dare raise the issue of his membership and activities in what appears to be a radical black-power type "church". That 90+% of the black vote that automatically goes to the Democrat candidate in every national election is usually responsible for the margin of victory for the party. Without it, the Dims would not have held the White House, and probably not a Congressional majority, since LBJ left office in '68. No Democrat candidate is going to say or do anything to anger that racially identifiable vote bloc, not even in an intra-party primary race. I suppose that makes sense from a purely practical political POV, but it isn't in the best interest of achieving racial harmony or for the good of the nation as a whole.

It's ironic that most black Americans are apparently taught from birth that they owe all of their advances in civil rights to LBJ and the Democrat party, when in reality the Democrat party was split between northern/western liberals and southern segregationists all during the time that the battles over the '60s era civil rights bills were being fought out in Congress. If the GOP congressional delegations of that period had not been almost solidly pro-civil rights none of LBJ's civil rights legislation would have become law. It's a fact that the GOP strongly supported virtually all of the civil rights legislation of that era that helped blacks achieve equal rights, and none of those bills would not have become law without that support. But somehow the Democrats have managed to get 99% of the credit from the black community, and that gives their party the margin of victory in practically every national level election which the Democrat candidate wins. Go figure.

[SJackson]

It’s not an urban legend. This was posted on FR a couple years ago, along with statements from his Minister on the Iraq war and Zionists, who he was close with in the past, that have largely disappeared from the web. I’ll try to find some old links later and post them.