ANSWERS TO 50 ANTI-MORMON QUESTIONS (LDS SITE FAIR)

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[Elsie]

 

Two hundred graduating students at Brigham Young University-Hawaii have been urged to use the Internet...

 

 

Professor Robert Millet teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/

 

 

Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59            "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16            "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[Elsie]

Well and good. But how effective is that advocacy if you don’t win?

HMMmmm...

So ya gonna WIN first; eh?

[Elsie]

To hell with principle, winning is everything, eh, Tant? Winning with Mitt is losing for the country.

You spelled TAUNT wrong...

[Elsie]

I only know of an individual, Sidney Rigdon, who was indeed from the Christian Church.

 

 

In the Dale R. Broadhurst Papers at the Marriott Library may be found a photocopy of an 1888 news clipping titled: "The 'Golden Bible,'" the original of which is on file at the New York Public Library. It was clipped from the Salt Lake Tribune of Apr. 15, 1888. The article reads as follows:

Sidney Rigdon's Grandson Says Their Family Understood it to be a Fraud -- EDITOR TRIBUNE: -- In the intervals of my literary labors here I have many talks with men who were in Utah at a very early day, and occasionally with original Mormons or their sons, which would be interesting had I the time to detail them. But my chance talks with one of these are so agreeable that I report him briefly for you. Mr. Walter Sidney Rigdon is a citizen of Carrolton, Cattaraugus County, N. Y., and a grandson of Sidney Rigdon, thepartner of Joe Smith. He talked with old Sidney hundreds of times about the "scheme of the Golden Bible." and his father still has many of the old Sidney's documents.

"Grandfather was a religious crank," says Mr. Rigdon, "till he lost money by it. He started in as a Baptist preacher, and had a very fine congregation for those days, in Pittsburg. There was no reason at all for his leaving, except that he got "cracked." At that time he had no ideas of making money. Indeed, while he was with the Mormons, his chances to make money were good enough for most men; but he came out of it about as poor as he went in."

B. -- "But how did he change first?"

"Well, he tried to understand the prophicies, and the man who does that is sure to go crazy. He studied the prophets and baptism, and of course he got [enough?] [Daniel?} and Ezekiel and Revelation [to] 'rattle' any man who gives [in his] mind to 'em -- at any rate [they got] him, and he joined Alexander Campbell. Campbell then [taught that] the end of the world was [nigh]. [His] Millennial Harginger [thoroughly] 'rattled' all who listened to him in Ohio and other places; [then] grandfather got disgusted and [ducked out?] [of] the new deal. He 'found' Joe Smith and they had a great many talks together before they brought out the [plates]. None of us ever doubted that they got the whole thing up; but [father?] always maintained that grandfather helped get up the original Spaulding book. At any rate he got a copy [very] early and schemed on some way to make it useful. Although the family knew these facts, they refused to talk on the subject while grandfather lived. In fact, he and they took on [a] huge disgust at the whole subject.

Grandfather died at Friendship, Alleghany county, N. Y. in 1876, [age] eighty years old. His son Sidney, my father, was born at Mentor in 1828 and remembers the stirring [times of] Mormonism. He lives [where I know] Grandfather had preached to his [near] neighbors in Alleghany and [taken the] converts to Nauvoo, so after the break up in 1844, he returned to live at Friendship. For a while he spoke of Mormonism as an attempt to [improve] Christianity; but the later [phases] of the thing in Utah were totally different from what he had taught. His daughter Nancy Rigdon is now Mrs Ellis of Pittsburgh, and her husband is a journalist in that city. Her testimony against Joe Smith is very strong. The Prophet was no doubt a thoroughly bad man, etc."

I only report that part of Mr. Rigdon's talk which shows the history of the "Golden Bible," as accepted in the family. Of course, if Sidney Rigdon had wanted the world to believe the Smith story of the plates, he would have told them so. But, though the family do not care to ventillate it, he evidently taught them to treat the whole thing as a fraud.

 

-- J. H. Bradley.

-- New York, April 7, 1888.

 

[Elsie]

Though I will concur with one thing, he has great hair.

Well!

Who WOULDN'T have!!

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(I'm just envious for I have NO hair!)

[Elsie]

I think in the end he was determined to be a bit nuts though.

By whom?

[Elsie]

 

That sort of lack of knowledge about your former faith explains a lot about why you left.

The question you ask is common knowledge, right there in the D&C.                                    (somewhere!)

 

 

Some things are quite plain in the BoM; too!

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

[Elsie]

A hayday for the MSM...

And for us JESUS FREAKS!!!!

[Elsie]

I am a Mormon. I am a Romney supporter. The two facts are not related - though I will admit to having to put in some effort to making sure they stayed that way.

Oh - kay....

[Elsie]

God calls it adutery and SIN..

Didn't I just post PROOF of this? With scripture from the BoM?

[Elsie]

A few years back, some of the LDS churches here in town started to rename themselves Community of Christ.

 

 

HERETICS!!!

 

 

They ain't REAL LDS Organization, INC. members.  The TRUE Ones from Salt Lake City!

 

 

Them are the  RLDS dudes; who stayed behind in Misery with EMMA and faced the opposition while the rest of us tucked our tails and FLED to the remote desert!

 

They, somehow, actually BELIEVED what the BoM said about POLYGAMY being a SIN & ABOMINATION to GOD!!

 

 

--MormonDude(Glad that I'M not related to THAT bunch!!)

[Types_with_Fist]

Question 51:

Why is Mormonism wrong? IMHO... because the Mormans believe in the Book of Mormon. And, because of the last page of Revelation, which includes this passage:

18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

[Elsie]

We use water and bread because they are convenient.

OH - kay....

[Elsie]

You expect me to accept the D&C as a legitimate answer for why Mormons don’t use the fruit of the grape in their sacraments?

Our SAVIOR sure didn't use water because is was 'convenient' at CANA!!

[Elsie]

If he states something as his own opinion, why is there a need to correct him?

My 'opinion' about BroncoBilly is that he.....

[Elsie]

No idea, ‘cause I’m not going to read the whole thread, don’t have the time or inclination.

{Psst... He don't care what you believe anyway. He just 'reads' what he WANTS to read.}

[restornu]

Amazing a wide open bonfire and the LDS being the guess of honor is the Kindling used so others can get gain!

Well we are the guess of honor might as well make our selves at home for when the Lord bonfire comes many here might be the guess of honor!

And they said we could not stand the heat!:)

PRESS FORWARD MITT IT GOING TO BE A HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008

Cheers!

[Elsie]

I expect you to accept LDS scripture as explanation for LDS doctrine, yes.

Translation:

"OUR 'scripture' supercedes and is followed over whatEVER the BIBLE has to say on a subject."

[Elsie]

Jesus used bread and wine at the First Communion.

"Stand by for NEWS!"

That was NOT any type of COMMUNION.

It was the yearly Passover Meal.

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"Vast Knowledge" - glad to help.

[Old Mountain man]

Actually, we don’t care what you accept. You see, human beings have the gift of free agency. Believe what you will. There, does that make it easier to attack the LDS Church?